Hi Volker

"Please suspend that operation until we have a clarification."
OK, I got no problem with that, but which aspects of the data do you still need to clarify further ?

Best regards
Premislav

W dniu 2024-10-05 23:10:08 użytkownik Volker Schmidt napisał:
Sorry, no, it does not dispell my doubts.
Please suspend that operation until we have a clarification.

Good night

On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 at 21:38, Premislav via Talk-it <talk-it@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
Hi Volker

„My observations: many, but not all addresses are inside buildings, and not on the entrance.

Unfortunately in that region many building outlines are not precise (were drawn a long time ago from outdated or misaligned Bing imagery), so sometimes addresses indeed land up inside buildings (sometimes the building even cross highways, in that case I better them using my normal account where I can). Consulting previous imports I was instructed not to “drag” addresses to edges of the outlines of the buildings, but leave them as they were in the database. Once imported they could be be dragged by local surveys to the exact position (sometimes only some meters away). This does not mean the address data should be considered wrong, but rather that the buildings outlines should be bettered.

I don't know if this is valid nation-wide, but certainly here in Padova (my present home town) the house numbers are on the location of the entrance, often some meters away. 

As far as I saw this can be different in Italy. Sometimes the address is placed on the gate(usually in cases where there is a fence fencing off the real estate), but also on the door of the building (usually in case where the door is accessible directly from the street.

In contrast I could not find out where your data came from.
As written on the source page , the data comes from the commune itself 
“Titolare del dataset
Comune di Valle di Cadore”

Sorry to be cautious
I hope this answers your questions and dispels your doubts.

Best regards
Premislav

W dniu 2024-10-04 23:34:36 użytkownik Volker Schmidt napisał:
Hi Premislav,
Please do not proceed before we have clarified several points.

Why:
I live in Padova, the same Region of Italy, but a different Province.
I have inspected a small sample of your recently imported data in Borca di Cadore.
My observations: many, but not all addresses are inside buildings, and not on the entrance. This is contrary to what I believed was standard around here. I don't know if this is valid nation-wide, but certainly here in Padova (my present home town) the house numbers are on the location of the entrance, often some meters away. This data regards the equivalent data for Padova in the same regional database you use as source. However the difference is that the Padova data are provided by the city's own services. In contrast I could not find out where your data came from. It looks very much as if some voluntary contributor has created address data for an open access-public data base, used in Province of Belluno using OSM data as source: We have to find out more about both aspects before proceeding.

Sorry to be cautious

Volker


On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 at 13:13, Premislav via Talk-it <talk-it@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
Hi IT-community :) 
 
After completion of the import of house numbers in San Vito di Cadore, Borca di Cadore, Auronzo di Cadore/Belluno, I'm planning to continue importing missing addresses in other communes of the Belluno region.
This time with Valle di Cadore. 
The necessary data is provided by the Comune di Valle di Cadore as Public Domain, the importing procedure would be the similar as last time.
A corresponding wiki page is already present.  
I’d like to start the import in the end of current and in next mouth (end October/November 2024).
If you have any comments until then, feel free to contact me.
 
Best greetings
Premislav
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