On 23/07/2020 09.59, Philip Barnes wrote:
On Thu, 2020-07-23 at 09:35 -0400, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
I'm trying (and failing) to imagine a road/path/whatever that you are allowed to walk on *iff* you are pushing a bicycle (or moped
or...). Do you know of any examples?

I cannot think of many roads where you can walk but not cycle, other
than pedestrianised streets in town centres but you can walk on lots of
footpaths where you can push a bicycle. Some are too long and totally
unsuitable.

A few of examples from my local big town
https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/HW9qSNB-1JlkQAC3SH_gZQ
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/23896048

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/350458507

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/318709194

All of those examples appear to allow regular pedestrians (foot=yes), which is common. I am asking if there are any places where walking is allowed *only* if you are pushing a bicycle, i.e. "no bicycle, no access". IOW, where your joke about dogs isn't a joke.

(OT: Airline transponders may be IFF — note the capitalization — although I wonder about that because I always think of IFF as more a military thing. I'm not sure if civilian transponders are really meant to *identify friend or foe*, or if they're more just "transponders".)

On 23/07/2020 09.59, bkil wrote:
For example, bicycle=dismount should be understood that bicycle
access is only allowed if a rider dismounts. However, if we had to
write bicycle=dismount + foot=no, then the meaning basically becomes:
neither riding your bicycle nor walking is allowed here, which is
quite the opposite compared to what bicycle=dismount would mean if it
were placed alone on the POI. Hence the correct way to tag this
should be bicycle=no + foot=no.

Right, that's what I was suggesting, because the only plausible interpretation I can come up with for foot=no + bicycle=dismount is that you may traverse the way [on foot] iff you are pushing a bicycle. The question was, does that ever actually happen? I'm not *quite* willing to rule it out...

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Matthew

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