Hi,

I'm happy to see that doorzone tag is used, I think it's a good way to
evaluate bad cycle infrastructure.

Le dim. 3 mai 2020 à 10:52, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> a
écrit :

>
>
> On Sun, 3 May 2020 at 18:17, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I am not completely sure, if I get this right, do you mean the area where
>> a door that is opened, would intersect with the space of a cycle lane?
>>
>
> Exactly, see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dooring. Personally when
> riding I use the cycle lane as a buffer between parked cars and just ride
> outside of the cycle lane. There's been cases of mappers removing the
> cycleway=lane tag saying it's unsafe due to the doorzone, but that's wrong
> since there is a cycle lane there, so a dedicated tag would help
> alleviate this.
>
>
>> Maybe this could be tagged as a “hazard”, i.e. a property, rather than
>> forming a subtype of cyclelanes?
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/hazard
>>
>
> That's an interesting idea. They key to note is that this is not usually a
> signposted hazard rather comes about due to the position of a parallel
> parking lane next to the cycle lane.
>
> cycleway:hazard=doorzone could apply. Though there could be other kinds of
> hazards which apply as well and it's unclear how that would work. I still
> would learn towards cycleway:lane:doorzone=yes as being my preferred option
> though, since you can tag =no as well.
>

I think sub properties of a feature should go with this scheme
mainfeature:subpropertie=values(yes/no/enumeration/absolute values/...)
This help to respect orthogonality : values of a key should not conflict

So yes for :
cycleway:lane:doorzone=yes/no/buffered
buffered for the case there is a buffer marked between car park lane and
cycle lane like this :
https://cyclingsavvy.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/BikeLaneBuffer.jpg
no means that the cyclelane is wide enough to not be doored (no buffer
though).

And I'd say yes also for :
cycleway:lane:exclusive
cycleway:lane:width
cycleway:lane:color
etc.

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