On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 15:25, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> Feb 7, 2020, 15:53 by pla16...@gmail.com: > > This list regularly suggests things like replacing landuse=grass with > landcover=grass, and proposes that editors make the appropriate changes. > > Vocal part of the list that seems minority to me. > Seems like there is little opposition, to me. But my memory isn't what it was and could be selective. And those suggesting it might be a minority because most have realized that however desirable it may be that it's unlikely to go anywhere, just like it didn't go anywhere the time they did speak in favour of it. > Then we give up on entirely sensible ideas because Carto insists on a "no > synonyms" rule. Which leads me to say, frequently, that OSM > doesn't do joined-up thinking. > > landcover is disliked by big part of this mailing list and iD devs and > JOSM devs. > Landcover=* has 153,499 uses. Or did you mean landcover=grass specifically? That's the second-most popular, with 19,755 uses despite not being rendered. For a tag that's not supported by editors or rendered, that's significant use. If landcover were approved, iD and JOSM might decide to support it. But probably not, because it doesn't render, and they wouldn't want to deal with people raising issues about iD suggesting tags that don't render. There's no point calling for it here because it doesn't render and editors don't support it. Editors won't support it because it doesn't render. Around and around we go. Did I ever mention that OSM doesn't do joined-up thinking? > > There were multiple attempts that tried to use OSM Carto map style as a > battering > ram to force this tagging style and I am getting irritated by this. > Some of us see the recent change to area barriers as OSM Carto map style being a battering ram to force tagging changes. One that has actually had major effects. Maybe we could try joined-up thinking. If you think that there is broad support for landcover proposal - feel free > to > start vote on the landcover proposal. > > I am tempted to do this to get it finally rejected, but I feel that it > would be not nice. > If you feel you can do so in a manner that is neutral, then please do it. -- Paul
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