Your first point is correct and it applies here in Italy as well. The default surface argument is weak. We do have unpaved official cycle and foot-cycle paths. The surface tag is mandatory in my view. The same applies to sidewalks and minor roads.
And the "path" approach for foot-cycle-way is very frequent in some countries. So it's there. I would not deprecate other tagging practices though. Il mer 5 feb 2020, 16:29 Dörögdi András <poggy...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Some thoughts from cyclist perspective. > I personally not using the (highway=path + bicycle=designated + > foot=designated) combination for shared foot- and cycleways. > > 1) If I change a cycleway to path, I will unintentionally enable access > for equestrians on the highway (according to this table: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access_restrictions#Hungary > ) > So I need to add an additional 'horse=no' tag to highway=path > > 2) The iD Editor doesn't know the shared foot and cycleways, it only > displays the highway as a classic 'path' category, just like a forest path. > Result: some iD users begins to change highway=path back to > highway=cycleway or highway=footway in urban environment. > > 3) As already mentioned by many, without the surface tag the highway=path > could become meaningless. Some routing engine interprets > highway=path + bicycle=designated + foot=designated as an unpaved path, > while interpreting highway=cycleway as a paved road (correctly) > Result: some bicycle routers begins to avoid shared foot- and cycleways > tagged with highway=path w/o surface. > I know we are not mapping for the outputs, but the cycleways works nearly > perfect while the path does not. Why do we change? > > So I need to add two additional tags for the same result without any > advantages. > > highway=cycleway > foot=designated > segregated=yes > > highway=path > foot=designated > bicycle=designated > horse=no > surface=asphalt > > Best regards, > András > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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