A possibility: bicycle_rack=yes/no? On Sun, Feb 2, 2020, 17:04 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/2/20 5:34 am, John Willis via Tagging wrote: > > Bicycle parking is full of different kinds of stands. > > “Floor” is Currently the the lack of anything - just an open area to park. > > But > > A) “floor” doesn’t mean “lockable” or not. All the others describe stands and > poles and whatnot, but ** “Floor” doesn't explicitly mean “no locking > affordance” - It’s implied.** The same is true for =surface or =ground or > =flat. > > B) A designated painted square of outdoor asphalt with a bicycle painted on > the ground is the same thing as the well established parking=surface - but > somehow requires a Different word for bikes? **that is inconsistent.** > > A large majority of bike parking in Japan/Asia is this type of parking. > Stands/two-tier are common in urban paid parking/schools/apartments, but ~80% > or more are just designated flat ground with a sign - just like a parking > lot. The bike parking I map most often is this type - formal, painted, > designated flat ground for bike parking with no stands, loops, rails, or > anything else for all the bikes to be chained to, covered=yes or not. > > C) “floor” is used for indoor building location descriptions. (layer is for > separating logically overlapping data features, not for this). “Floor” > implies indoors to me. Outside doesn't have a floor. the “ground slots” value > isn’t called “floor slots”. > > These 3 reasons make it a poor choice over The well established parking value > =surface, and since they are basically the same, I think we should use the > same tag value for both. > > I agree that it is a poor tag. > > But it will not be replaced by the surface key as the tag represents 2 > things. Until the tag can be replaced by tags that indicate both those things > then this tag will remain. > > In this case the OSM meaning of 'floor' does mean 'not lockable' and a flat > area. > > So .. develop a tag to indicate that 'lockable' or 'non lockable' capability > and then the surface key can also be used, thus replacing 'floor'. > > > > > Javbw > > > On Feb 1, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Florimond Berthoux > <florimond.berth...@gmail.com> <florimond.berth...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I think it's not exactly the same feature, one thing interesting in the > bicycle_parking for cyclist it to know if you can secure your bike. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing > listTagging@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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