Joseph, before you click "edit description", change your language at the top of the wiki page (make sure you are logged in. Also, if you change the language a few times to the ones you know, e.g. to Indonesian, to Spanish, and then to English, I think interface will always offer you to enter description in the last few you had picked.
Thanks for adding translations! On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:40 AM Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > You're right, I was a little confused. Almost all the features on Map > Features have a wiki page (and those that don't should get a page or > more likely be removed), so I understand that they have an OSM > wikibase entry, now, and creating the data item isn't an issue. > > But I still can't figure out how to add description in another language? > > I tried to get the Indonesian translation by: > 1) Open the English wiki page (eg from the link on Map Features in this > case) > 2) Click on the little pencil to edit the OSM wikibase data item > (which I can't see, because I have images disabled, but I just hunt > around...) > 3) Click on "edit" next to description > 4) Click "all entered languages" - wait, how do I add Indonesian? > ? > > Maybe I don't see Indonesian because I'm using a satellite internet > connection from Australia and I haven't edited Indonesian before. I > try clicking on "Configure" next to "In more languages" > > I don't see Indonesian there either. So perhaps I have to make a new > wikibase entry for my language? Unfortunately I don't see a link to > make a new wikibase item. > > Ok, let's try again with Spanish (Español), that's on the list... > > I still can't figure it out. How do I add a description in another > language? > > Fortunately I can just make a stub wiki page by: > > 1) Open the English language page > 2) Click on edit > 3) Copy the url, add "id:" in front of the page name > 4) Copy and paste the ValueDescription / KeyDescription box content > 5) Edit the description to Indonesian > > It looks like that will still be fewer clicks and fewer mouse strokes > than editing the OSM wikibase data items, and has the benefit of > creating a visible wiki page rather than just editing an obscure data > item. > > Joseph > > On 8/4/19, Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrak...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Joseph, could you clarify what you mean by "Map Features entry" ? If you > > only refer to keys/tags/relations/relation roles, than those things are > > automatically created -- an editor only needs to translate them. > > > > I do agree that if we want to store more diverse data items, we need > > specialized UI, at least for the initial item creation. Luckily, there > is a > > large Wikidata community that has already done many such custom UIs. For > > example, Wikidata now stores language data (all lexems), and there is a > > community-created tool to add such words -- > > https://tools.wmflabs.org/lexeme-forms/ (I'm not sure if this tool > checks > > for duplicates, please check first if you want to add new data). There > are > > many other tools we can model after. Best thing -- those tools don't > have > > to be part of the wiki, but can reside anywhere else, and could be in > pure > > client-side JavaScript. > > > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 2:05 AM Joseph Eisenberg > > <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> So far, I've found it very difficult to create and edit new wikibase > >> entries. I don't think it will be easier for Indonesian mappers to > >> create a wikibase entry for every Map Features entry, rather than > >> creating a stub page with a description. > >> > >> The advantage of translating wiki pages for each features is that then > >> there is a human-readable page which can be updated and expanded over > >> time, and also it's clear where the list of feature descriptions are > >> coming from. > >> > >> If you want everyone to create wikibase entries instead, there needs > >> to be a much easier, friendlier interface, available in all languages, > >> and I think such a major change should be discussed and be implemented > >> only if there is consensus that this would be a clear improvement for > >> most language communities. > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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