Thanks, yes, changing the language under “preferences” for the wiki works, though it’s a little annoying.
You should set the label field for all languages to the key=value or remove this field and display the key=value at the top of the page anyway. It’s quite distracting Now. Is there a way to see the wikibase data item history? One big concern I have is that it won’t be easy to see when something is changed. Can you get notified if someone changes a description? Joseph On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 1:05 AM Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrak...@gmail.com> wrote: > P.S. I made a short video on how to add descriptions and translations > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI1NDD4MtC4 > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:56 AM Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrak...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Joseph, before you click "edit description", change your language at the >> top of the wiki page (make sure you are logged in. Also, if you change the >> language a few times to the ones you know, e.g. to Indonesian, to Spanish, >> and then to English, I think interface will always offer you to enter >> description in the last few you had picked. >> >> Thanks for adding translations! >> >> On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:40 AM Joseph Eisenberg < >> joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> You're right, I was a little confused. Almost all the features on Map >>> Features have a wiki page (and those that don't should get a page or >>> more likely be removed), so I understand that they have an OSM >>> wikibase entry, now, and creating the data item isn't an issue. >>> >>> But I still can't figure out how to add description in another language? >>> >>> I tried to get the Indonesian translation by: >>> 1) Open the English wiki page (eg from the link on Map Features in this >>> case) >>> 2) Click on the little pencil to edit the OSM wikibase data item >>> (which I can't see, because I have images disabled, but I just hunt >>> around...) >>> 3) Click on "edit" next to description >>> 4) Click "all entered languages" - wait, how do I add Indonesian? >>> ? >>> >>> Maybe I don't see Indonesian because I'm using a satellite internet >>> connection from Australia and I haven't edited Indonesian before. I >>> try clicking on "Configure" next to "In more languages" >>> >>> I don't see Indonesian there either. So perhaps I have to make a new >>> wikibase entry for my language? Unfortunately I don't see a link to >>> make a new wikibase item. >>> >>> Ok, let's try again with Spanish (Español), that's on the list... >>> >>> I still can't figure it out. How do I add a description in another >>> language? >>> >>> Fortunately I can just make a stub wiki page by: >>> >>> 1) Open the English language page >>> 2) Click on edit >>> 3) Copy the url, add "id:" in front of the page name >>> 4) Copy and paste the ValueDescription / KeyDescription box content >>> 5) Edit the description to Indonesian >>> >>> It looks like that will still be fewer clicks and fewer mouse strokes >>> than editing the OSM wikibase data items, and has the benefit of >>> creating a visible wiki page rather than just editing an obscure data >>> item. >>> >>> Joseph >>> >>> On 8/4/19, Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrak...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > Joseph, could you clarify what you mean by "Map Features entry" ? If >>> you >>> > only refer to keys/tags/relations/relation roles, than those things are >>> > automatically created -- an editor only needs to translate them. >>> > >>> > I do agree that if we want to store more diverse data items, we need >>> > specialized UI, at least for the initial item creation. Luckily, there >>> is a >>> > large Wikidata community that has already done many such custom UIs. >>> For >>> > example, Wikidata now stores language data (all lexems), and there is a >>> > community-created tool to add such words -- >>> > https://tools.wmflabs.org/lexeme-forms/ (I'm not sure if this tool >>> checks >>> > for duplicates, please check first if you want to add new data). There >>> are >>> > many other tools we can model after. Best thing -- those tools don't >>> have >>> > to be part of the wiki, but can reside anywhere else, and could be in >>> pure >>> > client-side JavaScript. >>> > >>> > On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 2:05 AM Joseph Eisenberg >>> > <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> So far, I've found it very difficult to create and edit new wikibase >>> >> entries. I don't think it will be easier for Indonesian mappers to >>> >> create a wikibase entry for every Map Features entry, rather than >>> >> creating a stub page with a description. >>> >> >>> >> The advantage of translating wiki pages for each features is that then >>> >> there is a human-readable page which can be updated and expanded over >>> >> time, and also it's clear where the list of feature descriptions are >>> >> coming from. >>> >> >>> >> If you want everyone to create wikibase entries instead, there needs >>> >> to be a much easier, friendlier interface, available in all languages, >>> >> and I think such a major change should be discussed and be implemented >>> >> only if there is consensus that this would be a clear improvement for >>> >> most language communities. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >> _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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