P.S. I made a short video on how to add descriptions and translations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI1NDD4MtC4
On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:56 AM Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrak...@gmail.com> wrote: > Joseph, before you click "edit description", change your language at the > top of the wiki page (make sure you are logged in. Also, if you change the > language a few times to the ones you know, e.g. to Indonesian, to Spanish, > and then to English, I think interface will always offer you to enter > description in the last few you had picked. > > Thanks for adding translations! > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:40 AM Joseph Eisenberg < > joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> You're right, I was a little confused. Almost all the features on Map >> Features have a wiki page (and those that don't should get a page or >> more likely be removed), so I understand that they have an OSM >> wikibase entry, now, and creating the data item isn't an issue. >> >> But I still can't figure out how to add description in another language? >> >> I tried to get the Indonesian translation by: >> 1) Open the English wiki page (eg from the link on Map Features in this >> case) >> 2) Click on the little pencil to edit the OSM wikibase data item >> (which I can't see, because I have images disabled, but I just hunt >> around...) >> 3) Click on "edit" next to description >> 4) Click "all entered languages" - wait, how do I add Indonesian? >> ? >> >> Maybe I don't see Indonesian because I'm using a satellite internet >> connection from Australia and I haven't edited Indonesian before. I >> try clicking on "Configure" next to "In more languages" >> >> I don't see Indonesian there either. So perhaps I have to make a new >> wikibase entry for my language? Unfortunately I don't see a link to >> make a new wikibase item. >> >> Ok, let's try again with Spanish (Español), that's on the list... >> >> I still can't figure it out. How do I add a description in another >> language? >> >> Fortunately I can just make a stub wiki page by: >> >> 1) Open the English language page >> 2) Click on edit >> 3) Copy the url, add "id:" in front of the page name >> 4) Copy and paste the ValueDescription / KeyDescription box content >> 5) Edit the description to Indonesian >> >> It looks like that will still be fewer clicks and fewer mouse strokes >> than editing the OSM wikibase data items, and has the benefit of >> creating a visible wiki page rather than just editing an obscure data >> item. >> >> Joseph >> >> On 8/4/19, Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrak...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Joseph, could you clarify what you mean by "Map Features entry" ? If >> you >> > only refer to keys/tags/relations/relation roles, than those things are >> > automatically created -- an editor only needs to translate them. >> > >> > I do agree that if we want to store more diverse data items, we need >> > specialized UI, at least for the initial item creation. Luckily, there >> is a >> > large Wikidata community that has already done many such custom UIs. For >> > example, Wikidata now stores language data (all lexems), and there is a >> > community-created tool to add such words -- >> > https://tools.wmflabs.org/lexeme-forms/ (I'm not sure if this tool >> checks >> > for duplicates, please check first if you want to add new data). There >> are >> > many other tools we can model after. Best thing -- those tools don't >> have >> > to be part of the wiki, but can reside anywhere else, and could be in >> pure >> > client-side JavaScript. >> > >> > On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 2:05 AM Joseph Eisenberg >> > <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> So far, I've found it very difficult to create and edit new wikibase >> >> entries. I don't think it will be easier for Indonesian mappers to >> >> create a wikibase entry for every Map Features entry, rather than >> >> creating a stub page with a description. >> >> >> >> The advantage of translating wiki pages for each features is that then >> >> there is a human-readable page which can be updated and expanded over >> >> time, and also it's clear where the list of feature descriptions are >> >> coming from. >> >> >> >> If you want everyone to create wikibase entries instead, there needs >> >> to be a much easier, friendlier interface, available in all languages, >> >> and I think such a major change should be discussed and be implemented >> >> only if there is consensus that this would be a clear improvement for >> >> most language communities. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >
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