Let's agree to agree!

Op vr 4 jan. 2019 om 16:52 schreef Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com>:

> On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 8:30 AM Peter Elderson <pelder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm trying to go for the minimal tagging that supports the most of the
> use cases. Which is a node tagged highway=trailhead. It's up to mappers /
> communities if and how they will apply and embed that according to local,
> regional or country-specific needs or definitions. Or maybe decide it's not
> useful in that situation at all.
>
> If the definition is "a designated or customary place where a trip on
> a trail begins or ends," I'm entirely on board. We can add indications
> in the Wiki discussion that the decision of what is a trailhead can be
> informed by the presence of public parking (whether free or paid is a
> local custom), guideposts, notice boards, registers, seating, toilets,
> and similar facilities in locales where such things are required or
> customary. In a wilderness area, a trailhead may simply be a path
> going off into the forest from a road, and enough space on the
> roadside to park a few cars. In a developed park, a trailhead may be
> an elaborate site such as the Dutch apparently enjoy. But the key
> definition is: it's where you start or end your trip on the trail.
>
> Note that I did not say that it's where the trail starts or ends. A
> long trail may have a great many trailheads. Millions of people take
> trips on the Appalachian Trail each year. Only a few hundred traverse
> it from end to end. When I submitted my trip log from the much less
> popular Northville-Placid Trail, I was one of only a couple of
> thousand registered 'end-to-enders' in the nearly hundred years of the
> trail's existence. So it's not 'where the trail starts or ends," it's
> "a customary or designated place to get on or get off."
>
>  What gave me trouble was the original specification, which you were
> defending vigourously until quite recently. It had so many exclusions
> (must have a stela, must have seating, must have free parking, must
> serve multiple trails, and indeed was restricted to trailheads that
> simultaneously served foot- and cycleways) that it effectively
> excluded nearly everything that I would consider to be a 'trailhead'.
> Even as revised, it was a locale-specific definition that would not
> have been useful to me at all.
>
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