Nobody is going to dispute that Central Bank can be considered as a bank (see name).
But amenity=bank if for places that perform bank-like services for public - it excludes somebanks and includes some companies that technically are not banks. 24. Nov 2018 15:31 by al...@mustard.net <mailto:al...@mustard.net>: > > Here, I just looked up "bank" on 411.com (online directory assistance) > for Kansas City, Missouri: > > > https://www.411.com/business/MO/Kansas-city/bank > <https://www.411.com/business/MO/Kansas-city/bank>> > > > and guess what, Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, the Kansas City > branch of America's central bank, is listed... > > https://www.411.com/business/MO/Kansas%20City/federal-reserve-bank-of-kc/b-13fzpij > > <https://www.411.com/business/MO/Kansas%20City/federal-reserve-bank-of-kc/b-13fzpij> > > Try it for Washington, D.C., > > > https://www.411.com/business?key=Bank&utf8=%E2%9C%93&where=Washington%2C+DC > <https://www.411.com/business?key=Bank&utf8=%E2%9C%93&where=Washington%2C+DC> > > and see how many non-retail banks you get under the directory > assistance rubric of "bank" :-) > > > apm-wa > > > On 11/24/2018 3:08 PM, Warin wrote: > > >> >> Most people are non-experts in most things. The map >> should be made for most people, so that most people can use it. >> >> And most people would expect something mapped as a bank to be >> available for their use. >> Much like a cafe or a pub. They would not expect it to be only >> for certain groups of institutions. >> >> The intent with amenity=bank is a financial institution offering >> services to the public. >> Read >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbank >> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbank> >> >> That OSMwiki page suggest using office=financial for other >> 'banks' that do not accept the public. >> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:office%3Dfinancial >> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:office%3Dfinancial> >> Perhaps this OSMwiki office=financial definition could be >> expanded to accept 'central banks'. >> >> >> >> On 24/11/18 18:24, Allan Mustard wrote: >> >> >>> Sounds to me like the OSM wiki article in question was >>> written by a non-expert in banking and finance and should be >>> corrected/expanded. >>> Cheers, apm-wa >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone>>> >>> On Nov 24, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <>>> >>> sea...@gmail.com <mailto:sea...@gmail.com>>>> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:45 AM >>>> Allan Mustard <>>>> al...@mustard.net >>>> <mailto:al...@mustard.net>>>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well, a central bank is a bank, after all, >>>>> whether it is owned by the government or >>>>> is a "private" parastatal organization.В >>>>> I would tag it as amenity=bank since it is >>>>> a bank.В Not all banks offer consumer >>>>> services, so the fact that an individual >>>>> cannot open an account in a central bank >>>>> doesn't disqualify it.В Individuals >>>>> cannot open accounts in the Bank for >>>>> International Settlements, either, but it is >>>>> a bank.В A central bank is a specialized >>>>> bank that serves the government (controls >>>>> the monetary system) and the commercial >>>>> banking sector.В That's why it is called a >>>>> "central" bank. >>>>> >>>>> >В It also wouldn't be tagged as a bank, >>>>> > because it doesn't have accounts & you >>>>> > can't go in & deposit / withdraw cash, >>>>> > or take out a loan. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe you and I cannot, but the commercial >>>>> banks in that country can.В It's a bank. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> While central banks >>>> are certainly banks in and of themselves, I think >>>> tagging central banks as plain amenity=bank >>>> *without other qualifying tags* is a tricky one, >>>> and might constitute as expanding the definition of >>>> what amenity=bank is on the OSM wiki. The OSM wiki >>>> states that an amenity=bank feature is aВ >>>> "financial establishment where customers can, among >>>> other services, deposit and withdraw money, take >>>> loans, make investments and transfer funds". I >>>> would think that the word "customer" in OSM is >>>> intended to refer to people and regular >>>> businesses, and this is why such establishments are >>>> under the amenity=* key. Unlike regular banks, >>>> central banks usually only have other banks and >>>> their government as their sole customers and in >>>> many countries, central banks act as a regulatory >>>> agency for banks and other financial institutions, >>>> set country-wide fiscal policies like interest >>>> rates, and print/mint their countries' currencies. >>>> It therefore makes sense to tag central banks >>>> somewhat differently from other banks.>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I would also like to >>>> note that in my country, we do have a central bank, >>>> but we also have two 100%-government owned >>>> commercial banks, established by law, that I would >>>> not hesitate to tag as amenity=bank because they >>>> offer financial services to the public at >>>> large.>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> As for the current >>>> proposal, in my country, we currently tag central >>>> bank land as landuse=commercial. It might make >>>> sense to switch this to landuse=governmental (or >>>> some other keyword as may be decided by OSM) if >>>> this proposal pushes through.>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ~Eugene >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> В >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tagging mailing list >>>> >>>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>>> <mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org> >>>> >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>>> <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________Tagging mailing >>> list>>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org>>>> >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________Tagging >> mailing list>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> <mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org>>> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging>>>
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