One point that hasn't been discussed (and isn't in the subject line) is that part of Ilya's proposal is to also drop stations.
I would move in the opposite direction and expand the role of stations. Here's why. In many (many) cases, GTFS data from bus operators includes a single StopPoint value for what are in fact multiple stopping points (platforms) within a station. It would greatly simplify matters if the *station* itself could be considered the platform. I would suggest this could be accomplished by including the station (node/way/area) in the route relation with the role "station" (or, as appropriate, station_entry_only or station_exit_only). Not sure what usefulness, if any, this would have for rail routes. On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 9:46 AM, Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> wrote: > highway=platform and railway=platform on a WAY or an AREA are perfectly > fine tags for such platforms, where they exist. Until about a year ago I > was also adding public_transport=platform to these ways, but as it creates > confusion with the platform NODES, which as far as I am concerned represent > the bus and tram stops, I stopped doing that. > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/PT_ > Assistant/Mapping_Public_Transport_with_JOSM > > Jo > > 2018-03-31 9:23 GMT+02:00 Selfish Seahorse <selfishseaho...@gmail.com>: > >> Is public_transport=platform now about the structure or the function? >> >> If it is about the function, then we need a separate tag for the >> platform structure. >> >> If it is about the structure, then we should decide to either map the >> sidewalk or public_transport=platform (depending on how we define a >> platform). Otherwise, we say that there are two physical structures, >> which is wrong. >> >> On 30 March 2018 at 19:41, "Christian Müller" <cmu...@gmx.de> wrote: >> >> Gesendet: Freitag, 30. März 2018 um 11:06 Uhr >> >> Von: "Selfish Seahorse" <selfishseaho...@gmail.com> >> >> An: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" < >> tagging@openstreetmap.org> >> >> Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Still RFC — Drop stop positions and platforms >> >> >> >> I wouldn't call a sidewalk a platform, especially because the waiting >> >> area on the sidewalk often isn't clearly delimited. Furthermore, >> >> double tagging doesn't work if the sidewalk is called 'X Road' and the >> >> bus stop 'Y Square'. >> >> >> > >> > If a sidewalk _functions_ as a platform, than you can indeed call that >> > part of the sidewalk a platform, depending on which role of the area >> > you are currently talking about. This is time-dependent: >> > >> > If lots of people are standing and waiting on that sidewalk for a >> > vehicle to arrive, it will be easier for you to see why this is (also) >> > a platform, than e.g. at night time without a PT service serving the >> > halt. >> > >> > A thing as simple as a box may be used as a table or chair. This is >> > the same thing here. You have a physical structure that is so simple >> > that it may function as a platform or a sidewalk, depending on current >> > use. >> > >> > >> > Greetings >> > cmuelle8 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Tagging mailing list >> > Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >
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