On 04-Oct-17 12:00 PM, Bill Ricker wrote:
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick
<graemefi...@gmail.com <mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Question on memorials v monuments thanks.
How about a memorial arboretum
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arboretum
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arboretum>), a commemorative
planted grove of trees that you can walk through & sit under?
Does that count as a monument, or is it a memorial?
As I read wiki.osm, both historic=memorial and historic=monument are
presumed man-made structures, with the latter reserved for that which
is truly "'monumental' in size". Neither would apply to an Arboretum
(even though it's an unnatural landscape on monumental scale, it's not
a structure). (FWIW, xref there includes man_made=obelisk and
memorial=stele )
It sounds like the wiki expects us to find the plaque or stele etc
inside the memorial arboretum and tag it as the historic=memorial,
memorial=plaque, etc. and only tag an area thus if the monumental
structure has outline worth outlining as closed area way.
This memorial park http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/29743732 is not
an arboretum, AFAIK, although some of the trees may have been planted
trees, it's not about the trees. Unless I find a plaque or other
marker, the wiki is not encouraging use of either memorial or
monument, although memorial:conflict=WW1 could apply.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic%3Dmonument
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic%3Dmemorial
More info on my Memorial Park area
http://fd.ema.arrl.org/SiteDetail.php?site=MemPk
Memorial avenues exist - roads with tress planted alongside to remember
the dead usually from wars.
See http://www.historicplaces.ca/en/rep-reg/place-lieu.aspx?id=13557
No OSM taggging other than a road in OSM
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/280394066
Each tree usually commemorates one person, the tree signifies the
victory of life over death.
While there may a be a plaque - it is the tree that forms the memorial
for that person.
The collection of trees form a memorial to the war dead as a collective.
I have not tagged them...
Some more info?
http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/about/environment/protecting-heritage/remembrance-driveway/history/index.html
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I think a memorial rather than a monument. But I am not pedantic about it.
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