Forgive me if this is a duplicate. I was typing from my phone, and used the wrong 'From:' address, causing the message to drop into the moderator queue.
We don't generally try to encode all the details of local law. I'm perfectly happy with saying that licensing, seasons, hours, permissible species, sex, age, size, bag limits, weapon, and so on are out of the project scope. I don't think OSM should be in the business of duplicating information whose authoritative source is elsewhere and is arbitrarily complex. Nothing I've tagged with 'hunting=*' is dedicated as a hunting area: the closest thing are 'wildlife management areas.' I've been tagging with hunting=yes, hunting=no, hunting=permit (special permit required above and beyond the usual licensure), and in a handful of cases hunting=archery_only, simply to indicate whether an area is open to hunters at all. In most cases I've cross referenced the Wildlife Management Unit number <http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/wildlife_pdf/wmutownmap09.pdf> (which, as I said, is reasonably stable), and I depend on a hunter's ability to comply with other regulations. To attempt to encode the game regulations <http://www.dec.ny.gov/regs/2494.html> along with local firearms law and all the other complexity would be madness. I don't propose even to map the regions <http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/wildlife_pdf/huntseasons16.pdf> (and the separate set for migratory birds <http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/wildlife_pdf/wfregsbrochure16.pdf>) in which different sets of regulations apply. Note that Wildlife Management Units are administrative boundaries that don't follow county and township lines or any other particular structure. I wouldn't have any idea how to tag them, but I don't think that OSM is a good home for them in any case. In my part of the world, game animals are abundant enough, and public forest lands are also abundant enough, that most hunters either hunt on their own property or that of a club, or simply hunt on public land. I may therefore be a North American totally misunderstanding the European situation. Here, most of the popular game species are nuisance wildlife when they aren't being made into stew. On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 1:55 AM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> wrote: > I wonder whether a simple hunting=yes is sufficient. > In Belgium you can only hunt for a limited period of the year and even > within that period there are sub-periods for different animals. > Hunting in Flanders is often on fields and meadows, but you have to > stay at least 150m (AFAIK) away from the houses. That means the area > for which hunting=yes holds, is often a subarea of a larger landuse. > Furthermore you need a permit, for which you have to pass an exam. > > If one would create a map with all hunting=yes areas, would a > non-Belgian know all those limitations ? Do we have to map them > explicitly ? > > As for the nature protection aspect: in some areas they just release > animals that were raised in captivity a short period before the > hunting season starts. Not much protection going on there. > > m > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Lauri Kytömaa <lkyto...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >> if the forest and the hunting area are known under different names, > under which tag would you put which name? > > > > Two points for the whole discussion thread: > > > > 1) Forest areas (with the tag, that is) can be subdivided for various > > attributes, like deciduous/coniferous/last_full_chop=* etc. Users > > could debate for months when it is appropriate or isn't, but they are > > already. > > > > 2) Areas where hunting is allowed (to some) are not usually directly > > tied to the edges of the landuse=forest ways, even if the forest > > polygon hasn't been subdivided. Hunting (as in the general meaning > > "somebody shoots animals") isn't limited to forests. > > > > > > -- > > alv > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tagging mailing list > > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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