Am 07.06.2013 16:20, schrieb René Kirchhoff:

> I want to call a few facts in mind:
> 
> - We have an old attribute "landuse = reservoir". This is very much in use.
> - We have a proposal "Water detail". This was approved in voting by a
> large majority.

16:3 is a poor result for voting activity

> This proposal includes:
>     waterway=riverbank (replaced by natural=water + water=river)
>     landuse=reservoir (replaced by natural=water + water=reservoir)
>     landuse=pond (replaced by natural=water + water=pond)
> and:
>     Until all renderers (which render those areas differently from
> natural=water) support those new values, both schemes can be used
> together: just add natural=water and water=* to already present tags.
> "Deprecates" means "is equivalent for all purposes to". For example,
> landuse=reservoir should be rendered exactly like natural=water +
> water=reservoir. There are too many uses of the current tagging scheme,
> and we don't want massive retagging and edit wars.
> 
> 
> Many users have decided together for this new approach.
> This result should be respected by all of us.
> Finally, it was at that time already been discussed extensively over the
> content.

That is not what taginfo presents.
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=water#values

> Why do we resist again bring this discussion now? The proposal is unique
> and clearly understandable. The desire of the community should follow,
> and document decisions made in the wiki accordingly. This also means
> that there is a successor to landuse=reservoir.

There where unanswered questions on this list and no real discussion. I
only find:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.tagging/7247/focus=7309
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.tagging/8547/focus=8556

Can someone please show me the conclusion on this list as I do not find it.

> My assumption was that you know the decision of the community.
> Apparently this is not so, otherwise this discussion would not be necessary.

That is exactly the point. What is the community for you. I would always
discuss these major edits prior on this list.

The numbers on taginfo lead to a different view:

http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=reservoir
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/water=reservoir

it is still 27:1 towards landuse=reservoir

Once we get to a decision we need to change the wiki and also inform the
developer of the editors as I only stumbled over this issue cause of:

https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/8759

cu
fly

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