On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Peter Gervai <grin...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 15:21, Bill Ricker <bill.n1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Under the usual rule-of-thumb, to map what's visible on the ground >> (signed or built), > > Like smoothness=, incline=, etc?
Those are simple, measurable things. "illegal use" is not as easily measurable in the same way.It's similar to proposals to classify places as "dangerous". >> "Illegal use", in those words or similar. (Or tagged so by a suitably >> free Govt GIS file.) > > Incidentally sometimes that's the case, as it turned out. I think there are so many reasons why this tag is a bad idea it's almost not worth bringing any individual reasons. >> Anything else, an OSM member is making a value judgment and OSM is >> publishing it as a fact, which has legal consequences in most >> countries. OSM has a legal entity in UK which is democracy most >> favorable to libel tourists, where Truth is NOT a defense. (The new >> coalition gov't is looking at reform but don't bet you assets on it.) > > But then you can be sued on virtually anything, like stating there is > a road when the owner thinks otherwise, or state its smoothness as > "horrible" which is clearly offensive, etc. Obviously it's quite > acceptable if you request the addendum for this tag not to be used in > the UK. :-) Let's not resort to hyberbole. If you saw something illegal, presumably you'd report it to the proper authority. For example, if I see waste water dumping, is this now illegal=yes? What if someone else doesn't think it's illegal? Now it has to go to court. And that's where it belongs. You can say "There is a pipe here with water coming out"- but illegal? That's very subjective- it's why we have courts! > But then again you are worried about the word and not its use, so > since you seem to be a genuine englishman, please utilise your native > vocabulary to suggest an alternative _word_ to use which conveys the > same meaning without suggesting that this status is defined by law > instead of common sense or otherwise. I'm no native English speaker so > you may be better suited to pick the proper word. (Prohibited and > debated was two suggestion which I didn't really like.) It's not the word that's the problem, it's the concept that's trying to be conveyed. - Serge _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
