Not quite sure how we got from defining acousmatic music to film sound,
but...
It isn't mandatory to have dialogue through the centre channel but it is,
shall we say, highly recommended, even I've told students to do that. The
problem is that whilst people will tolerate, maybe not even notice, that
sound effects or theme music don't relate accurately to source positions on
screen they sure as hell notice if voices don't "come from the actor's
mouth". Now, whilst we can guarantee that for people in the sweet spot even
with FOA or for the majority of the audience with lots of speakers and HOA
(or even more speakers and wfs), the only thing we can really guarantee is
that most theatres will have the minimal number of speakers (and the
cheapest, at that). Having a central speaker carrying dialogue is the best
option to get speech coming from or near enough to the actors on screen for
the vast, vast majority of audience members worldwide. It's a crying shame,
but...
Even doing it in HOA and having a decoder in the theatres with the small
number of speakers which specially decodes speech to the centre speaker
won't cut it 'cos the likelihood of it being set up properly in all cases
is vanishingly low :-(
Dave
On 21 November 2015 at 08:35, Richard Dobson <richarddob...@blueyonder.co.uk
> wrote:
> I totally agree; and found much the same on many of the recent Bond films.
> 'Tomorrow Never Dies' was especially overladen and noisy; perhaps they felt
> they had to cover up the more than usually silly plot.
> But I do have to acknowledge that the sound system in our local Frome
> cinema is probably not the best available. Film spatialisation seems far
> too often to involve routing this sound to that speaker. And it seems
> almost mandatory that all dialogue is on the Centre speaker. Yet there are
> commercial Ambisonic sound libraries, so where are the state of the art
> films which use them?
>
> FWIW, there is a "sound design" group on Yahoo Groups (does come through
> as simple email), which is focussed on film sound. It's not a busy group, a
> trickle of messages from time to time. Currently there is a thread on
> foley, and how to record very quiet things. A few posts announcing sound
> libraries n'stuff. I have no idea if anyone is on there who is a film sound
> "A-list" person.
>
> Richard Dobson
>
>
> On 21/11/2015 08:09, Michael Chapman wrote:
> ...
>
>>
>> Think I may have already told this one: Quite some years ago I had
>> insisted that the children watch videos in the original language _and_
>> without subtitles.
>> I caught them with the subtitles on.
>> They responded that the subtitles were in the same language as the
>> soundtrack, and they had them on because they couldn't hear the dialogue.
>> I listened for a bit ... and apologised.
>>
>> Presumably there are special plug-ins that destroy sondtracks. It would be
>> fascinating if someone would (anonymously, I presume) come 'out' and share
>> the dirt ... ...
>>
>>
>>
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