Stefan, I was not stating that MPEG and ISO are evil. As a hobbyist, my question is: how Ambisonics might be included in a standard format made by the industry for the industry, that "everybody" would then have to use if there are no viable (and simple) alternative appart from the AMB format. I can only wait and see. -- Marc
Stefan Schreiber <st...@mail.telepac.pt> a écrit : > Marc Lavallée wrote: > > > > > > >Remember that MPEG is creating proprietary, industrial and commercial > >standards using lots of patents. How Ambisonics can co-exist? > > > >-- > >Marc > > > > > > > The MPEG is part of the International Standard Organisation (ISO), in > fact it was founded by both ISO and IEC. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iso > > > ISO has 162 national members > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countries_in_International_Organization_for_Standardization>,[2] > > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iso#cite_note-About_ISO-2> out of the > > 205 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states> total > > countries in the world. > > > In this context, I absolutely don't understand what the term > "propietary" standard means. A standard has to be defined, and > somebody has to be responcible. The ISO is an international > organization formed by national standard committees. > If I buy some lights (I even don't use the word lightbulb...), it is > a good thing that these work in different countries, and there are no > mechanical problems if I want to install the. It is a good thing if > railway lines have the same width in different places countries, > airport communications works everywhere with available equipment, etc. > > > Respective to Mpeg, I greatly admire the work they have done for > video/TV etc. If you should have used "free" Divx;-) or x264, these > are still based on MPEG's work. So what? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_Picture_Experts_Group > > The direct forerunner was the Joint Photographic Experts Group. > Everybody uses their format, how it seems... > > > Now, it seems to me that Ambisonics and MPEG audio easily could > co-exist. > > >Remember that MPEG is creating proprietary, industrial and commercial > >standards using lots of patents. > > > > Propietary is actually wrong, because you can license ISO standards > under known terms. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > But anyway, you are really not informed at all... Because the ISO is > issuing lots of open standards, which matter literally everywhere. > > http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/ > > > ISO <http://www.iso.ch/>/IEC <http://www.iec.ch/> JTC1 > > <http://www.jtc1.org/>/SC22 > > <http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/>/WG21 > > <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/> is the international > > standardization working group for the programming language C++. > > > Yeah, you never should use this programming language again. > > But then, things might get even more complicated for you to avoid > THEIR standads... > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_%28programming_language%29 > > > In 1989 the American National Standards Institute > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_National_Standards_Institute> > > published a standard for C (generally called "ANSI C > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI_C>" or "C89"). The next year, > > the same specification was approved by the International > > Organization for Standardization > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_for_Standardization> > > > > as an international standard (generally called "C90"). ISO later > > released an extension to the internationalization > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalization_and_localization> > > support of the standard in 1995, and a revised standard (known as > > "C99 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C99>") in 1999. The current > > version of the standard (now known as "C11 > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C11_%28C_standard_revision%29>") was > > approved in December of 2011. > > > > So, now you know what evil ANSI and evil ISO are, and maybe even you > are using some stuff of these evil, commercial guys. This is hard to > avoid. Even the bytecodes for text messages are coded in evil ANSI > and ISO way, which proves my case. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Character_Set > > > The International Organization for Standardization > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_for_Standardization> > > > > (ISO) set out to compose the universal character set in 1989 > > ... > > Damned... The ISO Capitalists (or Communists?!) took over, and nobody > stopped them when it was time! > > ;-) > > > Bye, > > Stefan > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound _______________________________________________ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
