Stefan Schreiber <st...@mail.telepac.pt> a écrit :

> If it < doesn't >  cost to include AVC and AAC into web
> browsers/plugins etc., maybe it is/was about Open Source principles?
> (Any discussion leads to nothing, because I tend to see this in a
> pragmatic way. For others it is about "open lifestyle". The same
> people still buy an iPhone or an Android phone, both OS environments
> definitively not "open". Linux admittedly is.)

The Android OS is "open", although not entirely:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_system%29#Licensing

The Replicant OS is a fork of Android, using only free software
(except from some bootloaders and drivers):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replicant_%28operating_system%29

> In any case, we probably agree. The difference is that I don't
> believe that in this case patents will matter a lot.
> IF there will be some 3D audio patent fee, it will be for handset 
> makers/headpone makers etc. But don't worry about Apple or Samsung,
> they won't die.

It does matter; there must be ways to promote and use ambisonics without
playing the games of Apple, Google, Samsung, MPEG LA and other patent
trollers.  Here's an interesting article:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesleadershipforum/2012/11/15/a-powerful-new-weapon-against-patent-trolls/
Quotes:
"Apple and Google, the world’s two top innovators, now spend more on
patents and patent litigation than on research and development."
..."small and midsize companies with less than $1 billion in revenues
now constitute 90% of the unique defendants in patent troll suits.
Firms with less than $100 million in revenue represent 66% of the
defendants."
..." a staggering 89% of all patents reviewed by the USPTO are judged
either partly or wholly invalid."

> The IETF or Xiph.org would probably demand something completely 
> patent-free. Think that the "next generation surround" is something
> like MP3 or DD+. The first codec is an MPEG standard, the second is
> owned by Dolby. By any interpretation or say "standard" :-) , MP3 is
> more open than DD+. (Known technological base.)

The "next generation surround" is anything we want, but I hope that
ambisonics will stay patent free.

--
Marc

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