Thanks for that feedback - I have HARPEX, but did not realise it does 
third-order horizontal?  One drawback with Harpex is it does not do height

Cheers

Garth

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On 09/07/2012, at 9:27 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:

> On 07/09/2012 01:17 PM, Garth Paine wrote:
>> Hi everyone
>> 
>> I have been gathering lots of ambient field recordings in A-Format
>> for a few years using my SPS200 Soundfiled mike and a 788T.  I have
>> experimented with playback over an 8 channel circle, and also with 3
>> circles of 8 at different heights (roof, 3M, 1M), and some other
>> arrangements.  I am currently working on 2 dance works where I want
>> to use some of this material and also spatialise other synthesized
>> material.  I have 8 Meyer UPJ-1 to use in the space and may be able
>> to get 2 more for height (not certain adn these may not be available
>> at all venues).
> 
> try height, it will improve envelopment a lot, but don't expect any 
> meaningful height localisation with only two speakers up there.
> 
> here's my take on with-height surround:
> http://stackingdwarves.net/public_stuff/linux_audio/lac2012/day3_1000_The_why_and_how_of_with-height_surround_production_in_Ambisonics.ogv
> 
>> I would like to achieve better localization than I have found easy to
>> do using lower order playback and wonder if it is possible to
>> undertake higher order playback with only 8 speakers?
> 
> yes. an octogon will give you wonderful third-order horizontal, which will 
> provide very good localisation even for largish audiences, and very little 
> phasing.
> 
> to use your first-order recordings on an octogon, try the HARPEX decoder. 
> there's some content it chokes on, but generally the results are very good.
> 
>> ALso would it
>> make sense to have the speakers in the circle at different heights -
>> would that allow a hint of the height information (I would tell the
>> plugin where they are), or just distort the render?
> 
> it will just distort the rendering, and compromise the horizontal precision.
> 
> 
> best,
> 
> 
> jörn
> 
> 
> 
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