Le 9 mars 2011, e deleflie a écrit :
> > My day job is programming web sites in Python (specifically with
> > the Django framework). I also have two years of experience with Plone.
>
> aha! ... then you are the man.
>
> I created ambisonia on top of Plone. 

What version?

> I agree Django would be better ... but that is irrelevant.

I agree.

And please forget about my suggestion of going "in the cloud".
I learned today that it would be a bad idea for many reasons, 
for legal and technical issues.  So yes, hosting at York would be 
an excellent option, not only for historical reasons.

> There is no reason why the community could not participate in
> maintaining Ambisonia whilst it is hosted at York university ...
> although I guess that would now be a call for Dave.
>
> Dave ... would you be interested in having Marc help out? Maybe that
> can be a catalyst for moving the site over to new servers.

I would be happy to help.

Marc

> Etienne
>
> > IMO, Django is a better platform than Plone; at first, Plone is
> > easy to use for building simple web sites, because it comes with
> > batteries included, but I found it fragile and difficult to maintain.
> > If the only purpose of a web site is to host content, without much
> > activity, then Plone is a valid choice, because it is a CMS.
> >
> >> I'm hesitant to pass the maintenance/ownership of the site over to
> >> individuals because I fear that the site will ultimately just be
> >> subject to the same problems... that is, a lack of resources.
> >
> > The Ambisonia community seems large enough, and there should be enough
> > people interested in maintaining such a valuable resource. Like the
> > PureData web site, also in Plone. It it hosted at IEM.at (IEM also host
> > a Plone site for ambisonic standards). The PureData web site is
> > maintained by few individuals that are not all working at IEM.
> >
> >> I also believe that a university is more likely to handle the content
> >> responsibly and with respect to the original authors' chosen licenses.
> >
> > Because they would be legally responsible?
> > Am I correct in assuming that most, if not all the licences used in
> > Ambisonia are licenses for open access to the resources? In that case,
> > all the site can do is specify the license for each item. What happens
> > to the content after it has been downloaded is not something the
> > university can manage; the users have the responsibility to respect the
> > licenses of the authors.
> >
> > My fear, and I hope I'm wrong, is that York university would simply
> > host the site as a favour, without committing resources that would be
> > necessary to its upkeep. I believe that a web site maintained by its
> > community would have a better chance to grow.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >> Etienne
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Peter Lennox <p.len...@derby.ac.uk>
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Actually, it would be fitting if it were to go to York, as that was
> >> > where we first coined the name Ambisonia, in 1996. It referred to a
> >> > mythical Duchy where magic rules, where astounding things were
> >> > possible (even though the astounding things couldn't be brought out
> >> > into the Mundane Lands). The portal to the Grand Duchy of Ambisonia
> >> > was officially secret, but widely acknowledged to be through a
> >> > metal cupboard in Dave Malham's room - you simply pulled the
> >> > curtain of cables aside and nipped in. A key feature of Ambisonia
> >> > (just like the Lion, Witch and Wardrobe) was that time moved at a
> >> > different pace. So you'd go I to do a simple half-hour job - a bit
> >> > of soldering to some B-format connectors - and when you came out,
> >> > hours, or even days, had passed. For a big job such as building an
> >> > analogue decoder, by the time you came out the season had changed
> >> > and everybody was looking a little older. The Grand High Vizier and
> >> > Ambisonic Ambassador to the Mundane Lands, Keeper of the Keys and
> >> > Guardian of the Portal was, of course, His Splendid Fortuitousness,
> >> > David Mal-ham I and a colleague - who can be identified as John
> >> > Vaughan, as the entente between our lands becomes stronger, worked
> >> > in a covert capacity, in an underground workshop producing
> >> > Ambisonic-to-RealWorld connectors, enabling us to use Mundane
> >> > technologies with Ambisonic ones, to provide tools for those
> >> > dedicated agents who wished to surreptitiously promote trade
> >> > between the Lands. Now that Ambisonic Technologies have been
> >> > officially recognised (if not fully understood), it seems a good
> >> > move to locate the Ambisonic resource in such a historic location
> >> > Cheers
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dr Peter Lennox
> >> > School of Technology
> >> > University of Derby, UK
> >> > tel: 01332 593155
> >> > e: p.len...@derby.ac.uk
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu
> >> > [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Malham
> >> > Sent: 08 March 2011 09:55 To: Surround Sound discussion group
> >> > Subject: Re: [Sursound] Death of Ambisonia.com
> >> >
> >> > I must apologise to Etienne (and everyone else) - I had indicated
> >> > to him that we at York would be interested in taking this on but
> >> > for a number of reasons getting permission at this end has dragged
> >> > on much longer than is good - entirely my fault ( I have had an
> >> > even more chaotic year than usual....). Although I now have draft
> >> > permissions for this, we need to sort out what happens when I
> >> > retire, which is now just 18 months away (hooray!) otherwise
> >> > ambisonia could be in the same state after that....
> >> >
> >> >           Dave
> >> >
> >> > On 08/03/2011 00:27, e deleflie wrote:
> >> >> The ambisonia wiki can, and *should* be hosted somewhere else. This
> >> >> should be relatively easy to transfer to whoever would like to take
> >> >> it. Would have to be under a different domain name.
> >> >>
> >> >> The content can only be hosted somewhere else if the host reviews
> >> >> all the license agreements with the uploaders. All content was
> >> >> uploaded in the context of a legal relationship between
> >> >> ambisonia.com and the author ... different authors chose different
> >> >> licensing agreements ... and this needs to be respected.
> >> >>
> >> >> Etienne
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Martin Leese
> >> >>
> >> >> <martin.le...@stanfordalumni.org>  wrote:
> >> >>>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:35:45 +1100
> >> >>>> From: e deleflie<edelef...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural
> >> >>>> sound ambisonia.com is down permanently. Apologies for any
> >> >>>> inconvenience. There is a chance that Paul Hodges might host
> >> >>>> some of Ambisonia's content on his servers. But it will be under
> >> >>>> a different umbrella.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I have resurrected the specifications for the
> >> >>> ".amb" and ".uhj" file formats, and placed them
> >> >>> on my website at:
> >> >>> http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/Ambisonic/B-Format_file_for
> >> >>>mat.html
> >> >>> http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/Ambisonic/UHJ_file_format.h
> >> >>>tml
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I am still tinkering with the HTML formatting, so
> >> >>> please don't take copies.  By all means link to
> >> >>> them.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I hope the content of the Ambisonia Wiki will
> >> >>> be resurrected somewhere, as there are links
> >> >>> to several pages in it from Wikipedia.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Regards,
> >> >>> Martin
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Martin J Leese
> >> >>> E-mail: martin.leese  stanfordalumni.org
> >> >>> Web: http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/
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