Le 9 mars 2011, e deleflie a écrit : > > My day job is programming web sites in Python (specifically with > > the Django framework). I also have two years of experience with Plone. > > aha! ... then you are the man. > > I created ambisonia on top of Plone.
What version? > I agree Django would be better ... but that is irrelevant. I agree. And please forget about my suggestion of going "in the cloud". I learned today that it would be a bad idea for many reasons, for legal and technical issues. So yes, hosting at York would be an excellent option, not only for historical reasons. > There is no reason why the community could not participate in > maintaining Ambisonia whilst it is hosted at York university ... > although I guess that would now be a call for Dave. > > Dave ... would you be interested in having Marc help out? Maybe that > can be a catalyst for moving the site over to new servers. I would be happy to help. Marc > Etienne > > > IMO, Django is a better platform than Plone; at first, Plone is > > easy to use for building simple web sites, because it comes with > > batteries included, but I found it fragile and difficult to maintain. > > If the only purpose of a web site is to host content, without much > > activity, then Plone is a valid choice, because it is a CMS. > > > >> I'm hesitant to pass the maintenance/ownership of the site over to > >> individuals because I fear that the site will ultimately just be > >> subject to the same problems... that is, a lack of resources. > > > > The Ambisonia community seems large enough, and there should be enough > > people interested in maintaining such a valuable resource. Like the > > PureData web site, also in Plone. It it hosted at IEM.at (IEM also host > > a Plone site for ambisonic standards). The PureData web site is > > maintained by few individuals that are not all working at IEM. > > > >> I also believe that a university is more likely to handle the content > >> responsibly and with respect to the original authors' chosen licenses. > > > > Because they would be legally responsible? > > Am I correct in assuming that most, if not all the licences used in > > Ambisonia are licenses for open access to the resources? In that case, > > all the site can do is specify the license for each item. What happens > > to the content after it has been downloaded is not something the > > university can manage; the users have the responsibility to respect the > > licenses of the authors. > > > > My fear, and I hope I'm wrong, is that York university would simply > > host the site as a favour, without committing resources that would be > > necessary to its upkeep. I believe that a web site maintained by its > > community would have a better chance to grow. > > > > Marc > > > >> Etienne > >> > >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Peter Lennox <p.len...@derby.ac.uk> > >> > >> wrote: > >> > Actually, it would be fitting if it were to go to York, as that was > >> > where we first coined the name Ambisonia, in 1996. It referred to a > >> > mythical Duchy where magic rules, where astounding things were > >> > possible (even though the astounding things couldn't be brought out > >> > into the Mundane Lands). The portal to the Grand Duchy of Ambisonia > >> > was officially secret, but widely acknowledged to be through a > >> > metal cupboard in Dave Malham's room - you simply pulled the > >> > curtain of cables aside and nipped in. A key feature of Ambisonia > >> > (just like the Lion, Witch and Wardrobe) was that time moved at a > >> > different pace. So you'd go I to do a simple half-hour job - a bit > >> > of soldering to some B-format connectors - and when you came out, > >> > hours, or even days, had passed. For a big job such as building an > >> > analogue decoder, by the time you came out the season had changed > >> > and everybody was looking a little older. The Grand High Vizier and > >> > Ambisonic Ambassador to the Mundane Lands, Keeper of the Keys and > >> > Guardian of the Portal was, of course, His Splendid Fortuitousness, > >> > David Mal-ham I and a colleague - who can be identified as John > >> > Vaughan, as the entente between our lands becomes stronger, worked > >> > in a covert capacity, in an underground workshop producing > >> > Ambisonic-to-RealWorld connectors, enabling us to use Mundane > >> > technologies with Ambisonic ones, to provide tools for those > >> > dedicated agents who wished to surreptitiously promote trade > >> > between the Lands. Now that Ambisonic Technologies have been > >> > officially recognised (if not fully understood), it seems a good > >> > move to locate the Ambisonic resource in such a historic location > >> > Cheers > >> > > >> > > >> > Dr Peter Lennox > >> > School of Technology > >> > University of Derby, UK > >> > tel: 01332 593155 > >> > e: p.len...@derby.ac.uk > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu > >> > [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Malham > >> > Sent: 08 March 2011 09:55 To: Surround Sound discussion group > >> > Subject: Re: [Sursound] Death of Ambisonia.com > >> > > >> > I must apologise to Etienne (and everyone else) - I had indicated > >> > to him that we at York would be interested in taking this on but > >> > for a number of reasons getting permission at this end has dragged > >> > on much longer than is good - entirely my fault ( I have had an > >> > even more chaotic year than usual....). Although I now have draft > >> > permissions for this, we need to sort out what happens when I > >> > retire, which is now just 18 months away (hooray!) otherwise > >> > ambisonia could be in the same state after that.... > >> > > >> > Dave > >> > > >> > On 08/03/2011 00:27, e deleflie wrote: > >> >> The ambisonia wiki can, and *should* be hosted somewhere else. This > >> >> should be relatively easy to transfer to whoever would like to take > >> >> it. Would have to be under a different domain name. > >> >> > >> >> The content can only be hosted somewhere else if the host reviews > >> >> all the license agreements with the uploaders. All content was > >> >> uploaded in the context of a legal relationship between > >> >> ambisonia.com and the author ... different authors chose different > >> >> licensing agreements ... and this needs to be respected. > >> >> > >> >> Etienne > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Martin Leese > >> >> > >> >> <martin.le...@stanfordalumni.org> wrote: > >> >>>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:35:45 +1100 > >> >>>> From: e deleflie<edelef...@gmail.com> > >> >>>> Subject: Re: [Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural > >> >>>> sound ambisonia.com is down permanently. Apologies for any > >> >>>> inconvenience. There is a chance that Paul Hodges might host > >> >>>> some of Ambisonia's content on his servers. But it will be under > >> >>>> a different umbrella. > >> >>> > >> >>> I have resurrected the specifications for the > >> >>> ".amb" and ".uhj" file formats, and placed them > >> >>> on my website at: > >> >>> http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/Ambisonic/B-Format_file_for > >> >>>mat.html > >> >>> http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/Ambisonic/UHJ_file_format.h > >> >>>tml > >> >>> > >> >>> I am still tinkering with the HTML formatting, so > >> >>> please don't take copies. By all means link to > >> >>> them. > >> >>> > >> >>> I hope the content of the Ambisonia Wiki will > >> >>> be resurrected somewhere, as there are links > >> >>> to several pages in it from Wikipedia. > >> >>> > >> >>> Regards, > >> >>> Martin > >> >>> -- > >> >>> Martin J Leese > >> >>> E-mail: martin.leese stanfordalumni.org > >> >>> Web: http://members.tripod.com/martin_leese/ > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>> Sursound mailing list > >> >>> Sursound@music.vt.edu > >> >>> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Sursound mailing list > >> >> Sursound@music.vt.edu > >> >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound > >> > > >> > -- > >> > These are my own views and may or may not be shared by my employer > >> > /******************************************************************* > >> >**/ /* Dave Malham > >> > http://music.york.ac.uk/staff/research/dave-malham/ */ /* Music > >> > Research Centre */ /* > >> > Department of Music "http://music.york.ac.uk/"; > >> > */ /* The University of York Phone 01904 432448 > >> > */ /* Heslington Fax 01904 432450 > >> > */ /* York YO10 5DD > >> > */ /* UK 'Ambisonics - Component > >> > Imaging for Audio' */ /* > >> > "http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/mustech/3d_audio/"; > >> > */ > >> > /******************************************************************* > >> >**/ > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Sursound mailing list > >> > Sursound@music.vt.edu > >> > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound > >> > > >> > ____________________________________________________________________ > >> >_ The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and > >> > reserves the right to monitor email traffic. 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