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> On Feb 4, 2025 at 11:09 AM,  <Christopher S. Wilson 
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> Hang from the vertical portion of the purlin only. It is unlikely you will 
> find a purlin that is designed to support sprinkler pipe from the bottom. The 
> best way to accomplish this it to install the hanger prior to the vapor 
> barrier. Use angle bracket type attachment put the bottom of the angle 
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> From:   Ed Kramer  <[email protected]>
>   Sent:  Wednesday, January 29, 2025 4:42 PM
>   To:  Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers  
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>   Subject:  [Sprinklerforum] Re: Hang From Bottom of Purlin
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> We’ve had a lot of projects recently where ‘simple saver’ plastic liner (or 
> something similar) is installed to the bottom of the purlins.    I still 
> prefer attaching to the vertical part of the purlin, but that can get tricky, 
> messy, and a bit ugly.    We’ve used a lot of the sammy-type products (there 
> are other brands on the market) to hang from the bottom horizontal flange of 
> the purlins – in particular the products that ‘mushroom out’ as they’re 
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> Yea, look at the listings carefully – there are limitations on size of pipe 
> that can be hung, and minimum thickness of the purlin you’re attaching to.    
> Also check the PEMB drawings for any limitations they have for hanging.    
> The maximum point loads can be pretty small.    We’re dealing with a couple 
> projects now where we’re installing multiple anchors for each hanger (kinda 
> like a trapeze bar) to keep the PEMB people happy.    You can get really 
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> From:   Brian Harris  <[email protected] 
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>   Sent:  Wednesday, January 29, 2025 2:55 PM
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>   Subject:  [Sprinklerforum] Hang From Bottom of Purlin
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> I’ve was always taught to hang from the vertical leg of a purlin. We have a 
> case where there will be a barrier installed, and the bottom flange is the 
> “only” place to hang. If I’m reading the data sheet for Sammy Sidewinders it 
> looks like there are a couple options, 2”  &  3” pipe. Thoughts?
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