In a DIPA system you HAVE to have both a sprinkler open and a detection device 
go into alarm.  It doesn't matter in what order that would occur.  The DIPA 
system is more for prevention of discharge until it's glaringly obvious that a 
fire is in progress.  Typical for freezers, Data Centers, sometimes electrical 
rooms when the sparky guys are really paranoid,  etc.

So, if the Linear Heat Detection (LHD) goes into alarm, it will transmit a 
signal to the DIPA releasing panel but nothing more is going to happen until a 
sprinkler opens.  Only when the LHD is in alarm AND a sprinkler opens is the PA 
valve going to open,

Any delay in the LHD signal is not going to be of any great relevance if the 
system is operating properly.  There is no calculation or specified time frame 
in any code or Standard.

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From: Kyle.Montgomery <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 7:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Sprinklerforum] Re: Double Interlock Pre-Action Systems

I guess what I'm really asking is what is the difference in response time for 
linear heat detection versus my sprinkler heads? In this case, it's protecting 
cold storage, so it's a standard-response, high-temperature sprinkler.

-Kyle M

From: Kyle.Montgomery
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 4:45 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Double Interlock Pre-Action Systems

It's my understanding that the premise behind double interlock pre-action 
systems is that they should be designed in such a way that, in the event of a 
fire, the detection (heat detector, flame detector, smoke detector, linear heat 
detection, etc.) should activate before a sprinkler head activates. Is there 
any formula or rule of thumb about how long the detection should take to 
activate versus how long the sprinkler should take to activate?

I'm working on a project and the alarm guy is telling me that there is a 
built-in activation delay in the releasing panel between when the linear heat 
detection sends a signal and when the releasing panel activates the solenoid 
valve. Is that normal? I'm wondering if that delay will actually delay the 
activation time of my pre-action valve, or if the delay is short enough that it 
is less than the normal time delta between linear heat detection activation and 
sprinkler head activation.

For example, if the built-in delay in the releasing panel is 15 seconds, but 
the delta between LHD activation and sprinkler head activation is normally more 
than 15 second, then there wouldn't be any tangible delay in the activation 
(opening) of the pre-action valve.

Kyle Montgomery
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Aero Automatic Sprinkler Co.
21605 N. Central Ave.
Phoenix, AZ 85024
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