FYI to all the Meyer Calc is not telling you what your flow is based on a 
pressure reading from the riser gauge. That calculator does not take into 
account any pressure loss for the drain valve and drain piping to the outlet. 
The psi value is more applicable to what you would get on a pitot gauge at the 
outlet orifice of the main drain.

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I use the excel sheet from Meyer Fire for main drain test, it tells me 698 gpm 
at 37 psi residual




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775 gpm seems quite high coming out of a 2" pipe.  I would be skeptical of that 
number.




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Thanks Brian that’s helpful! Based on that the main drain is flowing 775 GPM



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Meyer Fire has an estimating tool for Main Drain test you might find helpful.



Thank you,



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No clue but it gushes and its a lot of water….. To get that info we would have 
to put a PITOT on it



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Do you think, at 37 psi, that you’re pushing more than 361 GPM through that 2” 
drain?



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6” feed in the stairwell with a 4” sectional and 2” drain



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What size riser and drain?



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Demand is 361 gpm  with 45 PSI @ BOR. Main drain test they are getting 37  
residual

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Assuming that the demand from the calc area is for OH 1or 2 (and no inside 
hose), your demand is somewhere between 250 and 300 gpm If you modeled a full 
1,500 sq ft, no? And what is the residual pressure required?





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We have a jurisdiction that failed our final inspection because the residual 
pressure during the main drain test doesn’t match our BOR residual pressure 
from the hydraulic calcs for and OH extended coverage system.  Am I missing 
something? I don’t see how the residual pressure on a main drain test has 
anything to do with the residual pressure  from our calcs…..I was always under 
the impression main drain tests were to verify there hasn’t been a been a 
drastic change to the supply . This was an existing parking garage where they 
added solar panels on the top level so we added a sectional riser @ the top 
floor and added the new system. The fire department just keeps saying to upsize 
the riser from the 1st floor to the 4th floor which literally does nothing to 
my calcs. The building owner has spent 10’s of thousands of dollars flushing 
the UG, inspecting the UG for obstructions, paid for additional flow test  and 
serviced the back flow.  We are at a complete loss on what else to do as the 
fire department is adamant that’s the main drain test has to match the 
hydraulic calcs…..anyone ever come across a situation like this with a 
jurisdiction? Any suggestions?



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