Richard,

I'm going to take a stab at this, although I'm not 100% confident on my read.


  *   Going with IBC scoping, one option would be to upgrade the separation to 
a 3-hour fire wall as this would make the structure two separate buildings. I 
think the big issue here would be number of allowable penetrations through the 
fire wall being a limiting factor.
  *   Alternatively, the IBC does have provisions for separating a building 
into fire areas using fire barriers under the general fire protection 
provisions per 901.7 and 707.3.10. This should only need to be 2-hour rated, 
but unfortunately section 905-standpipes doesn't reference fire areas at all. 
It could still be a decent arguing point in your favor though since it has some 
logical merit.
  *   If you can't use either option to limit the system design flow, then one 
creative thought would be to have the one system but install two separate FDCs 
at the far ends of the building as allowed by NFPA-14(2024) 10.7.3.3, so that 
each half of the building has its own primary supply point. This would 
potentially allow you to size the distribution piping based on a max of 750-gpm 
though any one section of pipe which sounds like it would make installation a 
hell of a lot easier.
  *   Last, is your water supply issue the overall total capacity of 37,500 
gallons or needing to hit 1250-gpm? If the hydrant supply can hit 750-gpm but 
not the 1250 then perhaps you could install a 20,000-gallon dry hydrant 
dedicated to the second FDC which would likely be pretty far away from the 
street.

Hope this helps!

Sincerely,
Eric Rieve, SET
Rieve Fire Protection




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To: 'Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers' 
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Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Standpipe Calculations

Asking this on behalf of Rowe Sprinkler Systems (Temporally Un-Retired)

We have a 4-story modular apartment building sprinklered in accordance with 
NFPA 13R with allowed exceptions, with 4 standpipes. The standpipes are 
connected at the 1st floor level. One each at the ends of the L shaped building 
and two at the approximate mid-point on either side of a 2-hour separation wall 
with self-closing, rated doors in the corridor.
The question is for purposes of calculating the standpipe can these be treated 
as two separate buildings? For example, 250 gpm at the far end of the 4th 
floor, 250 gpm at the far end of the 3rd floor and 250 gpm at the at the 
connecting point of the middle standpipe, for a total of 750 gpm.
Or do we have to calculate the additional standpipes up to 1250 gpm. Available 
water is the issue.


Richard L. Mote CET
Rimrock Design Services, LLC
Middleburg, PA 17842
Mobile 570-541-2685
EMAIL 
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WEB: www.rimrockdesignservicesllc.com

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