To a certain extent, this is a rhetorical question. We can use the 1st floor 
hose valve on the standpipe as a flow outlet. I assume with the available 
water, flowing 250 gpm through a single 2-1/2” hose and Hose Monster is not 
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But the real problem is that there is not a good way that I know of to predict 
this. I won’t know until the job is done if there is enough water from the hose 
outlet to meet the requirement. Then if the system has to be retrofitted, it 
becomes a big deal and a big expense. How is everyone else handling this?
  
  
  
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Stonington, CT
  
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> From:  Worley, Tom  <[email protected]>
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> I am working on a re-design of a system where I need to include a provision 
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