The AHJ should also have input on this. If these are Class I standpipes (all we install in my area) the AHJ may want to dictate the installation locations, since these are only to be used by personnel trained in heavy fire hose streams. Code comments are a plus if the GC can get them. If you're friendly with the plan review department, they may send them as well since the records are typically public.
On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 9:33 AM Greg McGahan <[email protected]> wrote: > Assuming it is just an EOR requirement, and the EOR says install them, > then they should be installed - (I am not addressing this from a > monetary standpoint). However, the EOR has to clarify HOW to install them > specifically as it is outside the scope of the adopted standards/codes. > What size hose valve, flow and pressure requirements, Manual, Automatic, > Wet, Dry, etc. Where does the actual design criteria for the hose valve > come from? > > Give them a price for a fire pump and interconnected standpipes and see > how that sits with them. > > > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 8:13 AM Fpdcdesign <[email protected]> wrote: > >> It is worth noting that the EOR (assumed in this case to be the >> specifying engineer) can request things that are beyond what the Code >> requires. Codes are a minimum, not an absolute. >> >> That being said, you should be able to get the “permit review comments”. >> Not sure who did them but it would seem that the AHJ would be doing them >> considering they issue the permits. Sounds more like the engineer’s review >> rephrased to make it sounds more mandatory. >> >> I would push back to the GC and tell him you can’t complete your work >> without a copy of those comments. Put the onus on them. >> >> >> >> On Jan 23, 2024 at 9:01 AM, <Travis Mack <[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> What is the height of the top floor? What is the occupancy >> classification? Go through 905 in the fire code and see what it says about >> standpipes. From similar projects I have done over the years, I have not >> seen them required. But, your local fire code will dictate. >> >> >> >> >> >> Travis Mack, SET >> >> *M.E.P.CAD* | Instructor / Support >> >> 181 N. Arroyo Grande Blvd. #105 I Henderson, NV 89074 >> >> www.mepcad.com | *m: 480.547.9348*|* Whatspp: +14805479348* >> >> *Email: [email protected] <[email protected]>* >> >> >> >> *AutoSPRINK | AutoSPRINK FAB | AutoSPRINK RVT | AlarmCAD* >> >> >> >> *From:* James Litvak <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 6:55 AM >> *To:* AFSA Sprinkler Forum <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* [Sprinklerforum] Hose Valves in Townhome Apartments >> >> >> >> I am designing an NFPA 13 mid-rise apartment building that includes >> three townhome-style two-floor apartments. The EOR put a note on the FP >> plans to locate a hose valve on each floor of those units "AS REQUIRED." I >> didn't put them on my plans because I have never seen them required in >> similar units in other buildings. The EOR's review comments came back >> saying "Fire Protection permit review indicated hose valves required in >> 2-story units." I have requested the fire protection permit review comments >> and was told by the GC it is unlikely we'll receive them, and that I should >> just include those valves. My plans were approved by the AHJ without those >> valves. It is the EOR now refusing to accept my plans without the valves. >> >> >> >> Are those valves required? >> _________________________________________________________ SprinklerForum >> mailing list: >> https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> [email protected] >> >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> SprinklerForum mailing list: >> >> https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> [email protected] > > > > -- > > Greg McGahan > > *Genesis Fire Services, LLC* > > *4912 Glover Lane. Milton, FL **32570* > > *P- 850-637-8535* > > *C- 850-712-9555* > > _________________________________________________________ > SprinklerForum mailing list: > https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > [email protected]
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