Shielded fires wouldn't be my primary concern, fuel density and fire intensity would be my concerns. A little fire in a truck can be handled by a fire extinguisher. I'm not sure if food trucks are required to have anything other than that for fire control. But a fire in one of these units is not going to be shielded for very long if it isn't brought under control almost immediately.
Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME – Fire Protection | [email protected] | www.jacobs.com 1041 East Butler Road Greenville, South Carolina 29606 CONTACT BY: email or MS TEAMS -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fpdcdesign via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 11:57 AM To: Edk <[email protected]>; Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> Cc: Fpdcdesign <[email protected]> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Food trucks inside a building When I saw this, my knee-jerk reaction was EH2 for shielded fire. However, I was on a job site and had a 1:15 ride back to think about it. Most automobiles are enclosed and any fire started inside would be “shielded”. But a parking garage has been OH1 for a long time (although that may be reassessed). Also, the examples in NFPA 13 of shielded occupancies are very large (Modular houses). Where is the cut off between what OH1 would protect and EH2 be necessary? Who knows? A pick up truck has a lot less shielded space that an SUV. It is most likely a function of the size of the shielded area but how do you regulate that? Most food trucks are little more than delivery vans with kitchens and a side window. If 6 regular delivery vans were parked there, how would you protect it? I would lean toward EH2 because of the combination of the shielded space and the kitchen inside. To Ron’s point, there are a lot of other health and safety regulations (commercial kitchen without adequate ventilation, etc) that make this whole occupancy sketchy to begin with. Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860-535-2080 (tel:860-535-2080) (ofc) 860-554-7054 (tel:860-554-7054) (fax) 860-608-4559 (tel:860-608-4559) (cell) > > On Jan 13, 2022 at 10:08 AM, <Ed Kramer via Sprinklerforum > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote: > > > > I'm working on a small project (approx. 7,200 sf) that is a noncombustible > structure used for parking operating food trucks indoors. The plan shows 6 > trucks spread out near the perimeter with the middle of the building open for > pedestrian traffic (maybe tables?). Ordinary Group I hazard (parking garage) > seems very inadequate. Extra hazard group II (manufactured home assemblies) > seems a bit strong. Thoughts? Ed K > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > (mailto:[email protected]) > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org__;!!B5cixuoO7ltTeg!RcX5JP4LeGO09FAr8CBattqY0kW-M8-52sufDsdeL1NcQ7PBWPXO05AHXjBEwkvHNg$ > > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org__;!!B5cixuoO7ltTeg!RcX5JP4LeGO09FAr8CBattqY0kW-M8-52sufDsdeL1NcQ7PBWPXO05AHXjBEwkvHNg$ ________________________________ NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
