Then there are the greasy vapors the taco trucks, times six fast food
kitchens are spewing out into an enclosed space. I doubt if the trucks are
equipped with any kind of grease scrubbers so the clientele are essentially
eating under a giant coking line hood (the roof) that may or may not even
be vented.

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 7:34 AM Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum <
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> First off, it needs to be determined based on the CODE or local ordinance
> if this is even allowed.  Forget NFPA 13 for the moment.
>
> The fuel loading within a typical food truck is pretty high considering
> the amount of gasoline and propane in each truck.  If you look at this
> simply from a chemical loading standpoint, Class IB liquids have a limit
> based on the Building and Fire codes before you are in an "H" occupancy
> even in a sprinklered building.  Once you are an "H" occupancy there are
> other numerous requirements and limitations related to the building
> construction, egress, HVAC, life safety, etc., etc.  Access by the public
> is not a typical condition of an "H" occupancy.  Also consider the normal
> firefighting approach for a propane fire is to keep the vessel and
> surrounding area cool but let it burn out.  That's not a good scenario
> within a building.
>
> So before going any further, I'd recommend that you push back on this and
> require whoever dumped this in your lap to hire an architect or FPE to do
> an in depth code analysis and have a discussion with the local fire code
> authority to see if this is even permissible in this jurisdiction.
>
> And, no this is nowhere near the same as a parking garage and EH2 would
> not be out of the question.  It may not even be adequate.  Do some Googling
> for Food truck fires.  They ain't pretty and a fire is the lesser of the
> problem.  Explosions are a real possibility as well.
>
> Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME - Fire Protection |
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On
> Behalf Of Mike Morey via Sprinklerforum
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> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Food trucks inside a building
>
> If I, as a non-PE was sticking my neck out on this where it sort of
> doesn't belong, I'd have to go with EH-2: "Spaces where shielding of
> combustibles is extensive" being the key phrase to me.  Parking garage IMHO
> is intended for parking a car and leaving it, not using heat/fire producing
> equipment inside of it.
>
> Mike Morey
> CFPS 3229 * NICET S.E.T. 123677
> Project Manager * Fire Protection Group
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On
> Behalf Of Ed Kramer via Sprinklerforum
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 10:07 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Ed Kramer <[email protected]>
> Subject: Food trucks inside a building
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>
> I'm working on a small project  (approx. 7,200 sf) that is a
> noncombustible structure used for parking operating food trucks indoors.
> The plan shows 6 trucks spread out near the perimeter with the middle of
> the building open for pedestrian traffic (maybe tables?).
>
>
>
> Ordinary Group I hazard (parking garage) seems very inadequate.  Extra
> hazard group II (manufactured home assemblies) seems a bit strong.
>
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> Ed K
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