In Reality, a consumer broadband connection is not
the given right to plop any kind of server you want on 
the network.

Consumer Broadband connections, be it cable or 
dsl are meant for the user to browse faster... that's it

The always on folks (sans a few) are mostly responsible
for the proliferation of virus emails, spamming (with the 
now I can make money on the internet... so I can pay
for this link so I can check my email at high speed mentality)

Most broadband users are not responsible enough to
have the high speed connection, but all this rant aside,

40 bucks a month does not make you an ISP.

No Hosting Servers
No Email Servers
No FTP Servers

Just consuming.

Read the TOS to figure that out and give us all a break!

my 2cents

Greg

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bob Apthorpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Spamwriter


| > 
| > It's well known that filtering is *only* useful for keeping one's inbox
| > uncluttered; it does nothing to interdict the flow of crap from
| > upstream. You want to put a serious dent in spam? IDP broadband
| > providers that give their customers direct access to port 25 on remote
| > systems by default. Spam from AOL dropped to almost nothing once they
| > did that. It's not trivial to filter outbound port 25 traffic but if you
| > want to provide large-scale broadband access, it's mandatory to curb
| > abuse. It takes money, expertise, and most importantly, the corporate
| > will to be a good net neighbor and take responsibility for their users'
| > actions. Most broadband providers have all but the latter; an IDP gives
| > them incentive to get it or lose the rest.
| > 
| 
| Or what I would like to see is large Broadband ISPs publically disclose 
| the IP blocks which are not supposed to be sending mail to begin with. 
| (Comcast.net comes to mind right away which CLEARLY states in their 
| Terms of Service you are not supposed to be running web/mail ect ect 
| servers)
| 
| This would allow the recipient to make the concious decision to block at 
| firewall/mta/contentfilter, which will then reduce the blocking of 
| legitmate mail servers which happen to be in dynamic block.
| 
| 
| 
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