Hi, On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Mike Batchelor wrote:
> --On Wednesday, January 14, 2004 8:28 AM -0600 Bob Apthorpe > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > IDP broadband > > providers that give their customers direct access to port 25 on remote > > systems by default. > > Why should I have to pay extra for a business-class DSL line just so I can > avoid using the ISP's heavily clogged relay, when my own mail server can > deliver my emails directly? Why should I be told to expect a crippled > internet connection unless I pay up for business class service, which > consists of only removing the port 25 block? Why punish people who have > nothing to do with spamming? ISPs don't need to charge customers for the privilege of unfiltered outbound port 25 access; all I ask is that they tell customers it's blocked and require them to specifically ask for it to be unblocked rather than give it to them unblocked by default. The vast majority of broadband customers don't need it and those that do generally know enough to secure their machines. I don't see it as punishing people, I see it as securing an commonly and easily abused resource. This is similar to the 'why are you blocking my open relay even though no spam has been sent through it (yet)?' arguments a few years ago. FWIW, my mail servers are on a residential DSL circuit with a block of static IPs, proper forward and reverse DNS, relay tested and secured, with proper SWIP entries. I *still* had to smarthost through SBC when RoadRunner arbitrarily and against their stated policies dropped my traffic with zero warning or recourse. Contrast that with the hundreds or thousands of pieces of spam that haven't made it into my network simply by dropping connections from known dynamic broadband pools (including those from RoadRunner.) I've seen both sides of this - far more abusive mail traffic emanates from dynamic broadband pools than does legitimate traffic. Forcing that traffic through the broadband ISPs mailservers would shift the cost from those of us being spammed by broadband netblocks to the ISP *where it belongs*. The ISP's mail systems will either crash and burn, or the ISP will find a way to curb spam on their network. As it is now, they just leak that crap all over the net and expect the rest of us to pay to clean it up. -- Bob ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perforce Software. Perforce is the Fast Software Configuration Management System offering advanced branching capabilities and atomic changes on 50+ platforms. Free Eval! http://www.perforce.com/perforce/loadprog.html _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
