Rubin, 

About a week ago a guy asked how to use SA to check the emails before he sent them for 
some mail list (or some private promo thing).  I think that problem is that spammers 
themselves are starting to use product like SA to validate if an email is spam or not 
so they can fool the system.  I don't think there is a clear and easy way to stop them 
if they are using the same tools.  Just my $0.02.

As for the resources we use internal mail relays and they sit idle even though they 
use SA and AV on the same box.  I personally think the performance is acceptable for 
the benefit that we see out of it.

Gary Smith

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Sent:   Sunday, December 14, 2003 9:48 AM
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Subject:        [SAtalk] Clever spam (first of many, I'm afraid...)

 << Message: Re: >> << File: signature.asc >> The spammers are getting smarter about 
Bayes... this one sneaked through
SA 2.6, a well trained Bayes database, and the BigEvil rules with a
score of 1.0 out of 5.  What to do?  I'm sure that the sleazebags that
come up with these will send many of them now that they've figured out
it works.  It's starting to look like we're going to have to teach SA
how to read full sentences and/ or paragraphs, and making sure that it
can pick out when someone dumps a random collection of hammy words into
a message...

And, has anyone given any thought to working the SA engine up in C or
something faster than Perl?  I've seen many issues with system resources
and SA, and the answer keeps coming back as one of two responses:
1. Get more system resources
2. Throttle SA to a certain number of simultaneous threads

I'd be very happy to see a 3rd possibility: make SA less hoggy of the
resources, so that one could run more instances with less CPU etc.. 
Kind of like what happened with MRTG and the rateup routine (was Perl,
then some kind soul re-wrote it in C and exponentially improved it's
performance).
Just a thought...

Rubin
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RB Technologies



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