Scott wrote: | Having a single spam folder is a very bad decision
| I never delete automatically, but the high catagory gets a 10 second | glance every week, medium gets 20 seconds every week, and low gets 10 | seconds a day. Even when I 'delete', I am archiving it for my own spam | processing engine. I firmly agree with no single spam folder because in the current environment which dictates that email is personal and a probable invasionof privacy. You could run into some problems if user A happens to read user B's mail in determining spam Also, If you are reading user A, B, etc... mail to determine if it is spam, you might be opening yourself up to potential issues. We have taken the position of setting a default score (based on the SA developers optimization, but just add a .1 to distinguish from settings users may choose. If users want to change the settings they can. Most folks don't bother, (probably an education thing we need to elaborate on) We also quarantine tagged email via our webmail client once the individual logs into the webmail client, the quarantine folder is automatically created and our process starts to send mail there automatically. The user can see if their tagged spam is producing FP's and if so they can adjust their spam settings. >From the perspective of deleting spam: We do have a stipulation, that the quarantine folder will auto delete after 5 days or 1 MB of storage. Kind of Snooze you lose scenario. But gives each user the oportunity to validate their settings. ( if we did not do this, the server would be out of disk storage in a heart beat) >From our experience, most users delete the tagged mail anyway. All processes are automatic and programatically controlled because that's what computers are for :) I have a couple of dummy accounts that get a bunch or spam, which I make decisions on, but do not intrude on other's email. Enough spam comes to those addresses which gives me an overview of some of the most blatent abuses. My personal email, is fine tuned so I get the email I want with zero false positives, but I have some restricted settings with a moderate white/black list. Now that the politicians are dabbling in the spam area (probably because they know they can't legislate it, or themselves out of a wet paper bag) and they see this as a high profile, elect me, issue, it is more important to profess spam is a personal decision. Spam like More, Less Super, Harder, Softer is a relative term. What is spam to one may not be spam to another. SA is one of our core systems and is implemented with the evil, popcorn, weeds, backhair, and some specific environmental rules to give us a very effecive system. My thanks to the work done on SA and supporting components FYI, our system consists of the following configurable components: Firewall Messagewall (enforces SMTP RFC's and does blacklist and virus checks) Maildrop (since we use qmail, to conditionally manage filtering and delivery) SA (the obvious) qmail vpopmail squirrelmail Regards g ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott A Crosby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Matt Chapman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 9:13 PM Subject: [SAtalk] Re: What level to delete at? | On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:58:19 -0500, Matt Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | > Hello, | > | > I have been deleting at a score of 5 via Mimedefang. I notice that | > some spam is scoring at 3.5 and 4ish. Is is better to tag at say | > 3-4.9 and delete if it is any higher? | | > What are some of the setups out there? | | I sort it three ways. | | Having a single spam folder is a very bad decision, because it means | that it gets so cluttered with junk that almost all users just nuke it | all unread. Instead what I do is I filter | | 8<x junk.spam.sa.high 66% of spam is classified here. | 6<x<8 junk.spam.sa.medium 20% | 2<x<6 junk.spam.sa.low 14% | | High is almost exclusively foreign language spam. Medium is domestic | language spam, low gets the rare FP, and a few of the junkier but | still solicited newsletters. I also sort out high before mailing | lists, and the others after mailing lists. This way I can partially | filter mailing lists, yet avoid lots of FP's that setting a universal | threshold of 2 would cause. I keep a threshold of 2 for my main inbox | and low remains uncluttered enough to check for FP's. | | > What score do you delete at? | | I never delete automatically, but the high catagory gets a 10 second | glance every week, medium gets 20 seconds every week, and low gets 10 | seconds a day. Even when I 'delete', I am archiving it for my own spam | processing engine. | | Scott | | | ------------------------------------------------------- | This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. | Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it | help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help | YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ | _______________________________________________ | Spamassassin-talk mailing list | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. 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