Jennifer

Thanks for the response.

A good point with respect to the on/off nature of some of the rule sets.
More info for the FAQ?

I had been directed at your site and have installed those rules recommended
by Bob Menschel. 

I wish to say a thank you to all the sa rules contributors for your
contributions. It would take me a long time to come up with these myself and
its definitely not my area of expertise.

I've been having a private mail conversation with Bob this evening and the
sven virus issue was easily resolved.

Just as case of setting a different score for MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE and me
doing a some reading of the manual (that nearly always helps).

regards

Alan

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To: 'Alan Munday'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Rules, rules and more rules


Hi Alan

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> 
> Thanks to all who responded to me with hints and suggestions.
> 
> I had seen all the web sites mentioned but had not completely
understood
> how
> they all fitted together. Maybe a topic for the FAQ?
> 
> I've tried adding a fair number of rules and, noting comments made,
had
> the
> notion of asking if it would be a good idea if authors quoted the
target
> hit
> values that their rules were designed for? If people knew what the
target
> the scores in the rules have been designed for they could be easily
> recalculated by anyone for their own target.

A good suggestion.  I would guess though that everyone's spam limits
don't vary terribly, and you can kind of guess if scores should be
tweaked based on whether or not you've changed the default level for
spam. 

I think it's best if when you add custom rules, set (or change) the
scores to something low while you test them out in your environment.
Then you can best determine the scores needed to get the effect you want
out of the rules you're adding.  I can tell you that the rule sets I
shared are, for the most part, hit or miss. (popcorn etc) ..meaning big
chunka score, or nothing, since they are based on techniques. So I would
just leave the scores as is on those, or you can pay attention to which
ones hit with greater frequency (you'll see the ones I'm talking about.)
and raise those if you like.  My 'personal-use' popcorn rules have
varying scores, because spammer behavior seems to be a little pavlovian,
and certain of them (rules in the set) will hit quite often.  The sets
I'm talking about are here in case you missed them.
http://www.emtinc.net/spamhammers.htm
and also here...  (not sure when chris last updated his site so I don't
know if he has the newest sets, but he has tons of other goodies from
many people)
http://www.merchantsoverseas.com/wwwroot/gorilla/sa_rules.htm
 
> So far all the rules I've tried are fine as I mark as spam at 5.0, and
> deliver, I don't deliver at 10.0 and above (I've seen no false
positives
> above 10.0).
> 
> One set I've tried, the virus bounce, interested me as I'm being
inundated
> with Sven virus emails. These have increased dramatically recently as
in
> the
> last week I have created a number of new email accounts just for
maillist
> postings and these are all now getting hit with Sven mails. Anyway,
> looking
> though the virus bounce rules I did not see any referring to Sven. Has
> anyone written some or do they need doing? I'm no coding king (it's
been
> 20
> years since I did any serious programming) but I'll have a go if they
need
> doing.

I remember some talk awhile back about viruses, but I'm a smidge outta
the loop lately and don't recall which ones had rules done on them.  I
would check out chris' rules emporium (above) and the wiki
http://www.exit0.us/
If you don't find anything, or have any other good rules and want to
contribute, cool.  :)  Ideas generate ideas.

Jennifer




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