You clearly don't understand that most spam complaints do not go to the spammers. It's called a joe job and it's something I am suffering under right now. We have received well over 5,000 spam complaints from mostly automated ignorant systems in the last 2 weeks. I respond to each and every complaint. Not one of the spam complaints was for spam that originated from my systems. Not one of the spam complaints could I stop or have any affect on. All these automated complaints are doing is costing me time, money, and my sanity. You want to add to the load? Go ahead all you will do is drive more and more antispam resources off of the net. Here is the message I am sending out to those who complain it is not automated. Personally I want to find the maker of the automated reporting softwares and take them to court as they are costing me time and money. It would have been a simple matter to check to see if the spam originated from the network in question and if so send the complaint. If it didn't ignore it.
---- My spam complaint response --- You need to speak with your ISP and request they block the originating mail server which are located in China. Be sure to send them the complete headers of the message so they can accurately identify the sending servers. Compu-Net Enterprises neither sends nor condones the sending of unsolicited bulk email. We do not tolerate it originating from our customers, our servers, or our IP address allocations. A common tactic of spammers is to target those they dislike by including email addresses of those they don't like in the spam they send out. This is the case with all spam originating from [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], and numerous other randomly generated compu.net domain email addresses. This is commonly called a Joe Job for more information see http://www.techtv.com/news/culture/story/0,24195,3415219,00.html. Compu-Net Enterprises has taken the time to individually respond to every single complaint sent to our personal, company, and abuse addreses costing thousands of man hours to do so. Not a single one has been ignored. a spammer would not do this. We recently stopped running a blackhole list which was used by over 1500 mail servers handling mail for tens of thousands of domain names for the purpose of blocking spam from spammers. The spammer in question stung by the effectiveness of our block list decided to deceive people like yourself into harassing us with complaints and threats for emails we have no way of preventing nor stopping. Here is verifiable documentation for our assertions of innocence from some of the worlds largest media organizations.. http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=202932 http://news.com.com/2100-1032-5082728.html http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/0,39020645,39116687,00.htm http://pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php?id=508617326&fp=2&fpid=1 http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=internetNews&storyID=3510962 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=203302 http://washingtontimes.com/business/20031013-121430-2813r.htm http://www.abc.net.au/news/justin/weekly/newsnat-26sep2003-19.htm http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2003/09/26/anti_spam_web_pages_shut_down_by_attacks http://www.cbronline.com/latestnews/00eaa46e5d9bb5da80256dac0018ce87 http://www.ciol.com/content/news/2003/103092601.asp http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/software/groupware/story/0,10801,85439,00.html http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/33605 http://www.enn.ie/frontpage/news-9376462.html http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2003Sep/gee20030929021977.htm http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/internet/2003/0309260855.asp?A=HOME&O=FPW http://www.msnbc.com/news/959094.asp?0cv=TB10 http://www.neowin.net/comments.php?category=main&id=14064 http://www.net-security.org/news.php?id=3677 http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/22374.html http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/computing/20030925-1742-tech-spammers-attacks.html http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/business/columnists/gmsv/6868710.htm http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11787 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8347-2003Sep27.html Once again I clearly and emphatically state "The email in question did not originate from our servers, IP allocations, nor anyone associated with us". We apologize that our domain name has been usurped to send this spew to peoples email boxes but there's little to nothing that we can do about it. Most of the spam in question is originating in China. You may wish to send complaints to the following addresses role: APNIC Hostmaster e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] notify: [EMAIL PROTECTED] inetnum: 218.13.0.0 - 218.18.255.255 netname: CHINANET-GD descr: CHINANET Guangdong province network descr: Data Communication Division descr: China Telecom country: CN changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20010528 and either person: Chinanet Hostmaster address: No.31 ,jingrong street,beijing address: 100032 country: CN e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20021016 person: WU MIAN address: NO.1,RO.DONGYUANHENG,YUEXIUNAN,GUANGZHOU country: CN phone: +086-20-83877223 fax-no: +86-20-83877223 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or inetnum: 220.112.0.0 - 220.115.255.255 netname: GWBN descr: Greatwall Broadband Network Co.Ltd. descr: 2nd Floor, Building A,#9 Donghuan Plaza descr: Dong Zhong Street,East District, descr: Beijing, China (100027) country: CN admin-c: JM97-AP tech-c: JM97-AP mnt-by: MAINT-CNNIC-AP mnt-lower: MAINT-CN-CNNIC-GWBN changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20020930 status: ALLOCATED PORTABLE source: APNIC person: Jian Meng address: 2nd Floor, Building A address: #9 Donghuan Plaza, Dong Zhong Street address: East District, Beijing, China (100027) country: CN phone: +86-10-6418-5885 fax-no: +86-10-64182174 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] nic-hdl: JM97-AP mnt-by: MAINT-CNNIC-AP changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20020819 source: APNIC Bill Larson Network Administrator Compu-Net Enterprises (931) 920-0043 or (877) 920-1429 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Santerre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Dan Wilder'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Spamassassin-Talk (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 8:26 AM Subject: RE: [SAtalk] [OT] What is next step? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dan Wilder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 12:41 PM > > To: Spamassassin-Talk (E-mail) > > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] [OT] What is next step? > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:01:24AM -0400, Chris Santerre wrote: > > > > [ Describes plan for DDOS attack on spam-friendly ISPs, comprising > > synchronized complaints about as many copies as possible of each > > spam originating from said ISP ] > > > > > We could clean them up one by one. > > > > > > What do you guys think? > > > > How do you fund the legal defense of those who coordinate this? > > > > -- > > Dan Wilder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Why would you find that neccasary? These are legitimate complaints. You > wouldn't have to report every single spam to them, maybe just a reporting > that during the last x days we have recieved x amount of spam from the > following IPs..... > > Everyone doing that to one ISP won't even but a dent in there systems. It > simply to get there attention to do something about it. But reporting it, > correctly, is perfectly legal. Before an ISP is targeted, we could get a > copy of there usage and reporting policy. They all have them, they just > don't enforce. > > This is perfectly legal. > > I'm not wishing to hurt the ISP systems in any way. Just mass reporting so > they take notice. There is power in numbers :) > > --Chris Santerre > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer relations > Here's your chance to show off your extensive product knowledge > We want to know what you know. 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