On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 10:00:46AM -0400, Chris Santerre wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > a friend blocked all mail from france as a joke once, cos > > he didn't > > > like the french and didn't know anyone there > > > > > > cut down on spam by 95% > > > > Really, 95% of spams coming from France ? > > > > Aren't you confusing with China and Korea ? (~15% of my > > corpus, but they > > are easy to detect thanks to theirs charsets). Coz I dont > > receive a lot > > of spam from France, and we don't have more open relays than Germany, > > Spain or the US. > > > > Or maybe you just want to show how much you don't like them ? Like > > people who made this 'great' website : http://www.fuckfrance.com/ ? > > > > I think as many americans, you have a very bad and _false_ > > opinions on > > french people. Since I can read (and write) english, I can read your > > (online) newspapers; believe me (or not) : they are telling lot of > > bullshit about french people (but not only). But you don't > > have to add > > somes lies to their bullshit... > > You mean to say they aren't all cheese eating surrender monkeys!?! ;)
;-) No we aren't. I didn't eat cheese during the last 12 hours :-)). > Anyone who has looked at spam even over a single weekend can tell you the % > of spam that comes from france is tiny compared to Korea, China, and even > Latin America! Hell france is a distant 5th in my list! That's not 95% as quoted before... But I am very curious about these spams : Are they written in French ? What were the servers / IP / networks used ? Can somebody give me the spams they are receiving from France ? I am (very) interested. (put them on a web page if possible, or use bzip compression or GPG if you cant put them on a web server for obvious reasons). Spammers-(half)friendly people are : - 9 télécom : http://www.9telecom.fr/ They didn't respond to abuse mails, and had a lot of open relays. But since the UDP (usenet death penalty) against them they have become reactive to mail abuse. - Colt France, which allows their big customers to send a lot of commercial mails, as long as they are targetting B2B (like allowed by french laws). - Claranet and Amen (but they sometime react against mail abuse). http://www.claranet.fr/ & http://www.amen.fr/ - Goto Software, who wrote Sarbacane (a spamware) http://www.goto.fr/ - Wanadoo. Like 9 télécom, but they have become very reactive to mail abuse at least one year ago from now... But as they are the number 1 DSL provider (80 % of the market) they have a lot of people with open relays & open proxies. http://www.wanadoo.fr/ That's also the ISP I am using to write this mail, and the ISP choosen by my company... - Noos, a cable ISP : http://www.noos.fr/ Their users don't know how to use a computer ! So, if you want to block french spams (and hams), it would be clever to only block those IPs... There is also a RBL maintained by french people and mostly fed by french people, which does a great job : http://www.rfc1149.net/wsff.phtml This RBL is free, and not included in out-of-box SA, I think (if not already done), it should be added to future versions. -- Maxime Ritter - Etudiant en 2ième année à l'EFREI (http://www.efrei.fr) http://maxime.ritter.eu.org | Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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