--On Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:20 AM +1200 Simon Byrnand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

At 12:25 25/06/03 -0500, Bob Apthorpe wrote:


Some caveats: 1) Bogus Received headers are common but always occur
below the last legitimate header (once you find one bogus one the rest
are probably junk too), 2) envelope sender (helo_name) is often forged,

Just being pedantic here, but the helo name is not related in any way to the envelope sender.

The HELO or EHLO commands are supposed to be used to identify the name of
the mail server making the connection, but is essentially meaningless
these days and is just a vestige of a time long forgotten when everyone
played nice and gave valid information. Think of it as the SMTP
equivilent of an appendix :)

The envelope sender is provied in the MAIL FROM: exchange that happens
after the HELO/EHLO exchange. Indeed, _both_ are usually forged by
spammers....

Regards,
Simon

Let's not discount the value of HELO/EHLO or the appendix just yet. The biggest danger of a bad appendix it the amount of bacteria contained therein. Yet, without this bacteria, we have problems recovering water from the digested food. Certain of the bacteria may also help digest meat (aaahh--flesh eating bacteria!).


We _can_ function without it. It _may_ be vestigal. But, when it is there and working properly, it helps it meat.

I'm talking about the appendix.

A correct HELO/EHLO helps us troubleshoot mail or mailers gone astray.

Is it time to go home yet?




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