On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 07:02:49PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Putting on a Razor centric user hat and personae: It is taking away
> choice since I expect those messages to be spam verified by a user and
> not be a false positive generated by a tool.  If you are automatically
> reporting to razor any message that your SA tool is tagging as spam
> then when I use Razor I am really using an extension of your SA tool.
> Anything your SA tool tags as spam will be listed in the razor db.  I
> as a razor user no longer have a choice and must live with your SA
> tool even if I don't want it.

Well, if you're autoreporting, I would agree.  But we're agreeing that
you shouldn't autoreport.  What we're disagreeing about is whether you
should report the spam after you verify that the message is in fact spam.
I say, it doesn't matter if the spam was caught by SA or not, it's still
spam, so report it.

> But to say that the default spam threshold is foolproof is incorrect.
> At that level sending all tagged messages to razor is bound to cause
> trouble.

Exactly.  If you look at the last message, we're not disagreeing about
that:

>> If SpamAssassin correctly categorized it for you then it will also
>> correctly categorize it for me and everyone else.  No need to put that
>> into Razor in that case.  If it is dead already then you don't need to
>> try to kill it deader.

This isn't exactly true either (my installation is not equal to your
installation), but the part I'm disagreeing with is the part that says "If
SA catches the spam, there's no need to report it to Razor."  I don't care
whether SA thinks a message was spam or not, if I look at the message,
and it's spam, I report it to Razor.  If SA is nice enough to mark it as
spam so I can easily go through and check them, that's a plus for me, but
it in no way negates the benefit of then reporting the message to Razor.

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