Daniel Quinlan wrote:

DQ> Michael Moncur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
DQ>
DQ> > And a few slightly questionable scores:
DQ> >
DQ> > - This was 0.87 before. Less and less useful?
DQ> > score FROM_AND_TO_SAME               -2.071
DQ>
DQ> I think this one should go.  It's a common way to send email to a
DQ> large list of people without subjecting them all to the address list.

I think we should be able to use this to help us deal with the in-ones-own-awl
problem.  Will need some adjustment though.  I think if we deal with that
from=to=self issue, then we can reset this score to +2 or so probably.


DQ> > - Not as weird as all that, apparently
DQ> > score MSGID_CHARS_WEIRD              -2.178
DQ>
DQ> This is is on my list of rules to remove from both trees.  I separated
DQ> these characters from the MSGID_CHARS_SPAM rule because I wasn't as
DQ> sure about them and indeed, they aren't spammy enough.

It appears to be only [ and ] which are bad in this rule.  AFAICT anyway.

DQ> > - Lots of missing dates in non-spam?
DQ> > score DATE_MISSING                   -2.140
DQ>
DQ> This just doesn't happen often enough, I think.  In 7846 messages (23%
DQ> spam), I have zero occurances.

I think it's a screwy thing happening in my mail archive.  The other occurrences
of this in nonspam are in Matt Cline's and rodbegbie's archives.  Could you guys
take a look and see what messages are triggering this for you?

DQ> > Just for the record, here's the usual list of rules that ended up with
DQ> > slightly negative scores. They aren't really good rules for catching
DQ> > nonspam, so I think the rules are likely either defective or obsolete.
DQ>
DQ> Some of these were intended to be negative.  Some also are only
DQ> slightly negative so I would not delete them from the next pass.  See
DQ> if future improvements or GA runs (with other bad rules removed) can
DQ> recover them.
DQ>
DQ> > score LINES_OF_YELLING               -0.036
DQ>
DQ> I think this rule needs to be partitioned to be similar to the
DQ> UPPERCASE rules.  The current rules overlap so the GA-evolved scores
DQ> are hard to interpret.

Yes, I think this probable does need reworking.

DQ> > score X_AUTH_WARNING                 -0.703
DQ>
DQ> I think this one is intended to be negative, although I didn't write
DQ> it.  This happens when Unix users send mail with "mail" or "mailx"
DQ> locally.

Yes, I think it's supposed to be -ve too, I also don't know the origin of the
rule.

DQ> > score X_NOT_PRESENT                  -1.920
DQ>
DQ> This one is on my hitlist as well.  Didn't work out very well.

But it actually turns out to be great at clawing back false positives.  I think
we should leave it in with the low score.

C


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