Craig R Hughes wrote:

>Olivier Nicole wrote:
>
>>It would be best to avoid ruining the slowly building good reputation
>>of SA (attending Apricot yesterday, SA was cited as the best anti-spam
>>product one could choose -- Apricot is a yearly international
>>conference in Asia-Pacific).
>>
>
>I agree that baseless discrimination is bad; however the goal here is not to 
>punish evil country, or the people who live in them.  In fact, the score of 3.0 
>for ROUND_THE_WORLD means that even if you happen to have one of those TLDs, you 
>still need to be sending something spammy-looking to trigger the rule.  As well 
>as not be in someone's autowhitelist.  If the default rules find you triggering 
>too often on legitimate mail from those TLDs, then it's easier than simple to 
>set that rule's score lower, or even to 0.0 disabling it altogether.
>
>It's great to hear that SA is increasingly being viewed as the #1 anti spam 
>product.  In some part I think that's probably due to both its effectiveness, 
>and its flexibility.  The simple fact is that in the corpus, there are 687 
>pieces of spam which triggered ROUND_THE_WORLD, and only 40 pieces of nonspam.  
>Of the nonspam, only 2/40 triggered additional rules putting them over the 
>threshold, both of which were postings to bugtraq (daniel, could you check 
>them?)
>
>Y  5 /home/daniel/corpus/nonspam/security.bugtraq/7377 
>GAPPY_TEXT,ROUND_THE_WORLD
>Y  5 /home/daniel/corpus/nonspam/security.bugtraq/6911 
>GAPPY_TEXT,ROUND_THE_WORLD
>
>The other 38 were identified correctly as nonspam.
>
>Of the spam, 687/687 were correctly identified as spam.
>
Craig, I'd be curious to see this corpus -- where can I find it? I'd 
like to know, once and for all, how badly this kills the non-spam. Also, 
is there a testbed suite for checking the results against an arbitrary 
corpus?

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