But has a narrower audience than the President f the United States, whose
name recognition is quite high...

Let's get the social out the door on Monday.

On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote:

> I was thinking that "2015 in sports" would be a good alternative. It ranks
> highly for both number of citations and the length of the article. Also, it
> uses lots of small templates for the flags of countries.
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:21 AM, Ed Erhart <[email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>
>> Setting aside the benchmark measurement, Obama is extremely well-known,
>> and that will help get traction on social... as opposed to city nicknames
>> or law clerks of the US Supreme Court.
>>
>> --Ed
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Pine W <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm. Maybe it's easier to send the SM out and deal with the tech fine
>>> print by having people read a full write-up from the provided links?
>>>
>>> I mainly wish that we could use some relatively safe, apolitical,
>>> uncontroversial article for the example.
>>>
>>> Pine
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Jeremy Baron <[email protected]
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jun 13, 2015 1:06 AM, "Pine W" <[email protected]
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>>>> > Perhaps we should take the discussion of how best to measure page
>>>> rendering performance to Wikitech. Would that be ok with you?
>>>>
>>>> We could. Or maybe the research or analytics lists list would be better.
>>>>
>>>> But should that block getting the SM out the door?
>>>>
>>>> > I agree that there is value in continuity, but remember that
>>>> Wikipedia articles change over time, so unless someone is using a specific
>>>> rev for measuring every time that they make a change to how the page
>>>> renders, then there is likely to be at least some unreliability in the
>>>> measurement.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously we could double check this but I'd wager that Obama's cite
>>>> count would have trended upward in the last couple years. (so e.g. if we
>>>> compared older HHVM vs. newer HHVM with constant Obama rev the gains would
>>>> be more extreme than if we did older HHVM + older Obama vs. newer HHVM +
>>>> newer Obama)
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, it should be technically feasible to run benchmarks for old
>>>> software again against the new revisions. In this case the author wasn't
>>>> actually comparing to past numbers. (I think...) Only generating his own
>>>> new numbers for a constant rev. And anyway, the comparison to old numbers
>>>> wouldn't be meaningful (without rerunning them) because hardware's not
>>>> constant.
>>>>
>>>> > Technical factors like bandwidth and geolocation may also be involved
>>>> in skewing the validity of comparisons.
>>>>
>>>> I can't imagine a scenario where that's relevant. Does anyone benchmark
>>>> specific articles over the public internet? vs. running the client on the
>>>> same local network as the server.
>>>>
>>>> > For most citations, there appears to be a manually updated list here:
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_with_the_most_references
>>>>
>>>> not just manually updated but each entry has its own separate update
>>>> date??? hrmmm, Obama is listed lower on that list than another article with
>>>> Obama in title…
>>>>
>>>> -Jeremy
>>>>
>>>> P.S. the recently released slow parse logs may be useful for choosing
>>>> articles to track over time. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98563
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