[zfs-discuss] OpenSolaris vs Linux

2008-12-03 Thread Joseph Zhou
Hi list, Any one has ANY new data on OpenSolaris vs Linux? I only found an old post in 2006. http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/2006-January/030366.html And any comments on "if OpenSolaris performance is about the same as Solaris 10"? Thanks! z___

Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenSolaris vs Linux

2008-12-03 Thread Joseph Zhou
-clustered fashion without Lustre. With Lustre, the performance competitive focuses are different from above). Thanks, z - Original Message - From: Tim To: Joseph Zhou Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenSolaris vs Linux

2008-12-03 Thread Joseph Zhou
this specific point? Thanks! z - Original Message - From: "Ian Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Joseph Zhou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenSolaris

Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenSolaris vs Linux

2008-12-03 Thread Joseph Zhou
s possible. Thanks. z - Original Message - From: Tim To: Joseph Zhou Cc: Ian Collins ; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenSolaris vs Linux On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Joseph Zhou <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenSolaris vs Linux

2008-12-03 Thread Joseph Zhou
those results can be a basis for 7000 block-performance... any comment? Thanks! z - Original Message - From: Tim To: Joseph Zhou Cc: Ian Collins ; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenSolaris vs Linux On

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hardware Raid Vs ZFS implementation on Sun X4150/X4450

2008-12-06 Thread Joseph Zhou
Thanks, but compared to what? To Windows, are you sure we can say "lot of additional"? To Linux, maybe, since I am not a Linux fan. To leading NAS appliances, these are not competitive advantages. "opensolaris.org" posted this, I would like an official answer! The Open-spirit should be encouraged,

Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenSolaris vs Linux

2008-12-06 Thread Joseph Zhou
in mind. Thank you! zStorageAnalyst - Original Message - From: "Ian Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Joseph Zhou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss]

Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenSolaris vs Linux

2008-12-06 Thread Joseph Zhou
: Joseph Zhou Cc: Ian Collins ; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenSolaris vs Linux On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Joseph Zhou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: haha, Tim, yes, I see the Open spirit in this

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hardware Raid Vs ZFS implementation on Sun X4150/X4450

2008-12-06 Thread Joseph Zhou
Yeah? http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/products/Controllers/Hardware/sas/value/SAS-31605/_details/Series3_FAQs.htm Snapshot is a big deal? Windows OS does that too. Compression -- where is the performance data showing compression in OpenSolaris has little overhead? Clones -- tell me the benefit of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hardware Raid Vs ZFS implementation on SunX4150/X4450

2008-12-06 Thread Joseph Zhou
Is Jeff Cheeney still on this list? He had an open mind. Jeff, if you can see this, tell me if I am wrong! Please! Thanks! z - Original Message - From: "Joseph Zhou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "William D. Hathaway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Cc: <[EMAIL PR

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hardware Raid Vs ZFS implementation on SunX4150/X4450

2008-12-06 Thread Joseph Zhou
Richard, thank you so very much! This is the kind of answer I expected from Sun Storage. I will do more studies before I speak again. Happy holidays!!! z - Original Message - From: "Richard Elling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Joseph Zhou" <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hardware Raid Vs ZFS implementation on Sun X4150/X4450

2008-12-06 Thread Joseph Zhou
party integration??? Talking about garbage! z - Original Message - From: "Torrey McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Richard Elling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Joseph Zhou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "William D. Hathaway" <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hardware Raid Vs ZFS implementationon Sun X4150/X4450

2008-12-06 Thread Joseph Zhou
Ok, I am tired and going to bed. Thanks, Real Sun Storage folks, this is the best discussion I have had in months. I am satisfied. ;-) Goodnight, and long live the open spirit!!! zStorageAnalyst - Original Message - From: "Joseph Zhou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hardware Raid Vs ZFS implementation on Sun X4150/X4450

2008-12-06 Thread Joseph Zhou
/PGandLR/ref/rpbug10.htm Open Storage is a great concept, but we can only win with realy advantages, not fake marketing lines. I hope everyone enjoyed the discussion. I did. zStorageAnalyst - Original Message - From: "Torrey McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jose

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hardware Raid Vs ZFS implementation on Sun X4150/X4450

2008-12-07 Thread Joseph Zhou
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Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenSolaris vs Linux

2008-12-12 Thread Joseph Zhou
Russell, thanks much for the testing data! Although out of date and not a server data, not what I am looking for, the data is valuable on the thread for others that may have the need. And one day, we can have "open storage validated open performance data" as a brand anyway, since we are

Re: [zfs-discuss] Split responsibility for data with ZFS

2008-12-13 Thread Joseph Zhou
Richard, I have been glancing through the posts, saw more hardware RAID vs ZFS discussion, some are very useful. However, as you adviced me the other day, we should think about the overall solution architect, not just the feature itself. I believe the spirit of ZFS snapshot is more significant t

Re: [zfs-discuss] Split responsibility for data with ZFS

2008-12-13 Thread Joseph Zhou
Hi Bob, Tim, Jeff, you are all my friends, and you all know what you are talking about. As a friend, and trusting your personal integrity, I ask you, please, don't get mad, enjoy the open discussion. (ok, ok, O(N) is revolutionary in tech thinking, just not revolutionary in end customer value.