Ok, I am tired and going to bed. Thanks, Real Sun Storage folks, this is the best discussion I have had in months.
I am satisfied. ;-) Goodnight, and long live the open spirit!!! zStorageAnalyst ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Zhou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Torrey McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Richard Elling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "William D. Hathaway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 2:03 AM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Hardware Raid Vs ZFS implementationon Sun X4150/X4450 > Torrey, now this impressive as the old days with Sun Storage. > > Ok, ZFS PiT is only a software solution. > The Windows VSS is not only a software solution, but also a 3rd party > integration standard from MS. > What's your comment on ZFS PiT is better than MS PiT, in light of openness > and 3rd-party integration??? > > Talking about garbage! > z > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Torrey McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Richard Elling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Joseph Zhou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "William D. Hathaway" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 1:58 AM > Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Hardware Raid Vs ZFS implementation on Sun > X4150/X4450 > > >> Richard Elling wrote: >>> Joseph Zhou wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah? >>>> http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/products/Controllers/Hardware/sas/value/SAS-31605/_details/Series3_FAQs.htm >>>> Snapshot is a big deal? >>>> >>> >>> Snapshot is a big deal, but you will find most "hardware" RAID >>> implementations >>> are somewhat limited, as the above adaptec only supports 4 snapshots and >>> it is an >>> optional feature. You will find many array vendors will be happy to >>> charge lots >>> of money for the snapshot feature. >> >> On top of that since the ZFS snapshot is at the file system level it's >> much easier to use. You don't have to quiesce the file system first or >> hope that when you take the snapshot you get a consistent data set. I've >> seen plenty of folks take hw raid snapshots without locking the file >> system first, let alone quiescing the app, and getting garbage. > > _______________________________________________ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss