Is this true, that ZFS does not require more memory than any other file system?
I am planning to run ZFS on a low memory system (~256MB) and I'm hoping this
will be sufficient.
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benefits of ZFS such as end to end data integrity?
>
You could probably answer that question by changing the phrase to "Don't
trust the underlying virtual hardware"! ZFS doesn't care if the storage is
virtualised or not.
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I keep my system synchronized to a USB disk from time to time. The script
works by sending incremental snapshots to a pool on the USB disk, then deleting
those snapshots from the source machine.
A botched script ended up deleting a snapshot that was not successfully
received on the USB disk.
Jonathan Loran writes:
>
> Quick question:
>
> If I create a ZFS mirrored pool, will the read performance get a boost?
Yes. I use a stripe of mirrors to get better read and write performance.
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n inactive BE to rewrite everything with the desired
> attributes (more important for copies than compression).
>
Would it be possible to create a new BE on a compressed filesystem and
activate it? Is snap upgrade implemted yet? If so this should be quick.
Ian.
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uld like to do that but the cost of the good raid cards has put me off;
> maybe this is the solution.
>
The cache may give RAID cards an edge, but ZFS gives near platter speeds for
its various configurations. The Thumper is a perfect example of a ZFS
appliance.
So yes, you can
rought this up on a lengthy thread over at sysadmin-discuss a
> while back and have had no one refute my assertion with credible data.
>
We can only hope that ZFS boot will consign this never ending layout
argument to the dust of history.
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S root can't boot (not
opening the pool?) while UFS can.
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>
>
> Ian Collins wrote:
>> I wanted to resurrect an old dual P3 system with a couple of IDE drives
>> to use as a low power quiet NIS/DHCP/FlexLM server so I tried installing
>> ZFS boot from build
s
learned me, I should be able to import rpool to newpool.
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cannot mount 'export': directory is not empty
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ou should be able to use "cfgadm -c configure sataX/Y" to configure an
attached, but unconfigured drive.
Or you could use failsafe boot and import/rename the old rpool.
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Ian, thanks for replying.
I'll give cfgadm | grep sata a go in a minute.
At the mo I've rebooted from 2009.06 livecd. Of course I can't import
rpool because it's a newer zfs version :-(
Any way to update zfs version on a running livecd?
No, if yo
depends on the properties of the pool at the receive end or the
stream. Assuming you are responding to "You can create a file container
(can be sparse) and create a ZFS filesystem inside it.", there is a
filesystem within a file, so you can tune the properties of
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risky by many people here; people prefer double redundancy in groups
that big with large drives.
Or even triple parity with 2TB drives, see
http://blogs.sun.com/ahl/entry/acm_triple_parity_raid
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a simple vdev
(either a single drive or a mirror).
scp will work well, or you can export individual ZFS filesystems using
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This doesn't appear to be documented anywhere.
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On 03/11/10 09:27 AM, Robert Thurlow wrote:
Ian Collins wrote:
On 03/11/10 05:42 AM, Andrew Daugherity wrote:
I've found that when using hostnames in the sharenfs line, I had to use
the FQDN; the short hostname did not work, even though both client and
server were in the same DNS domai
ds doing.
(There has been some knowledge improvement in those 6-9 mnts [I hope])
I don't think I really did any formatting at all.
It's the pool format that changes, not the disk format. Another
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I was wondering if there is any way of converting a zpool which only have one
LUN in there to a raidz zpool that was 3 or more LUNS in it?
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done, but not complete:
scrub: scrub in progress for 23h57m, 100.00% done, 0h0m to go
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On 03/18/10 11:09 AM, Bill Sommerfeld wrote:
On 03/17/10 14:03, Ian Collins wrote:
I ran a scrub on a Solaris 10 update 8 system yesterday and it is 100%
done, but not complete:
scrub: scrub in progress for 23h57m, 100.00% done, 0h0m to go
Don't panic. If "zpool iostat&qu
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have a couple of x4540s which use ZFS send/receive to replicate each
other hourly. Ech box has about 4TB of data, with maybe 10G of changes
per hour. I have run the replication every 15 minutes, but hourly is
good enough for us.
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On 03/17/10 14:03, Ian Collins wrote:
I ran a scrub on a Solaris 10 update 8 system yesterday and it is 100%
done, but not complete:
scrub: scrub in progress for 23h57m, 100.00% done, 0h0m to go
If blocks that have already been visited are freed
On 03/18/10 12:07 PM, Khyron wrote:
Ian,
When you say you spool to tape for off-site archival, what software do
you
use?
NetVault.
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oss the wire which is
tested to minimize the chance of inflight issues. Excpet on Sundays when we do
a full send.
Don't you trust the stream checksum?
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Not really, there is ZFS diff is in the woks, but not here yet.
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On 02/28/10 08:09 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
I was running zpool iostat on a pool comprising a stripe of raidz2
vdevs that appears to be writing slowly and I notice a considerable
imbalance of both free space and write operations. The pool is
currently feeding a tape backup while receiving a
On 03/25/10 09:32 PM, Bruno Sousa wrote:
On 24-3-2010 22:29, Ian Collins wrote:
On 02/28/10 08:09 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
I was running zpool iostat on a pool comprising a stripe of raidz2
vdevs that appears to be writing slowly and I notice a considerable
imbalance of both free space
On 03/25/10 11:23 PM, Bruno Sousa wrote:
On 25-3-2010 9:46, Ian Collins wrote:
On 03/25/10 09:32 PM, Bruno Sousa wrote:
On 24-3-2010 22:29, Ian Collins wrote:
On 02/28/10 08:09 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
I was running zpool iostat on a pool comprising a stripe of
etter than these, try an aggregated link
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plish this with minimal disruption?
I have seen the zfs send / receive commands which seem to be what I should be
using?
Yes, they are the only option if you wish to preserve your filesystem
properties. You will end up with a clone of your original pool's
filesystems on the new pool
why no one on this thread has.
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On 03/27/10 11:33 AM, Richard Jahnel wrote:
zfs send s...@oldpool | zfs receive newpool
In the OP's case, a recursive send is in order.
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n dead way link aggregation has to
work. See "Ordering of frames" at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link_Aggregation_Control_Protocol#Link_Aggregation_Control_Protocol
Arse, thanks for reminding me Richard! A single stream will only use one
On 03/27/10 08:14 PM, Svein Skogen wrote:
On 26.03.2010 23:55, Ian Collins wrote:
On 03/27/10 09:39 AM, Richard Elling wrote:
On Mar 26, 2010, at 2:34 AM, Bruno Sousa wrote:
Hi,
The jumbo-frames in my case give me a boost of around 2 mb/s, so it's
not that
imbalance data across the 2 raidz2 groups..
Or could the writes be reduced to cut the eventual resilver time when
the faulted drive is replaced?
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?
Not really. The error has been corrected.
Is there specific documentation somewhere that tells how to read these
status reports?
If you run a scrub on a pool and an error condition is fixed, the report
wil give you a URL to check.
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il on an import and it took
forever to import the pool, running out of memory every time. I think
he eventually added significantly more memory and was able to import
the pool (of course my memory sucks, so I'm sure that's not quite
accurate).
Maybe *you* need to add some more
ate, where the replace
wont complete. Please help - screen output below.
Can you zpool clear the device?
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especially important for file systems will
millions of files with relatively few changes.
Or to generate the list of files for virus scanning!
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resilver to restart. Is that necessary?
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derstanding is the spares are added when the
drive is faulted, so it's an event rather then level driven action.
At least I'm not the only one seeing multiple drive failures this week!
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e see zpool(1M)."
What happens if you remove it as a spare first?
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t it's going to take
me several days to get all the data back. Is there any known workaround?
Exactly what commands are you running and what errors do you see?
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d. It hung.
How long did you wait and how much data had been sent?
Killing a receive can take a (long!) while if it has to free all data
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don't think compression will be on if the root of a sent filesystem
tree inherits the property from its parent. I normally set compression
on the the pool, then explicitly off on an any filesystems where it
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] fe8000d1bb90 zfs:spa_sync+29d ()
genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] fe8000d1bc40 zfs:txg_sync_thread+1f0 ()
genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] fe8000d1bc50 unix:thread_start+8 ()
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if one HDD goes down for whatever reason, the data stored over my
ZFS pool / datasets should remain unharmed due to the redundancy.
You don't appear to have any redundancy! How did you create the pool
(should be in "zpool history")?
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remember exactly but maybe 119) and I kept upgrading it constantly
till now.
No, the command syntax has been there from the beginning....
Better luck next time!
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caches or buffers differently … or something like that.
it's well documented. ZFS won't attempt to enable the drive's cache
unless it has the physical device. See
http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide#Storag
ess this extrapolates to one data and N parity drives..
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then intending to do
zpool add tank mirror c1t14d0 c1t15d0
to add another 146GB to the pool.
Please let me know if I am missing anything.
That looks OK and safe.
This is a production server. A failure of the pool would be fatal.
To whom??
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The
source zpool is version 22 (build 129), and the destination server is
version 14 (build 111b).
Consider upgrading. I used to see issues like this on Solaris before
update 8 (which uses version 15).
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On 04/11/10 11:55 AM, Harry Putnam wrote:
Would you mind expanding the abbrevs: ssd zil 12arc?
http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide
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Apr 11 22:37:42 fs9 IMPACT: Read and write I/Os cannot be serviced.
Apr 11 22:37:42 fs9 REC-ACTION: Make sure the affected devices are connected,
then run
Apr 11 22:37:42 fs9 'zpool clear'.
Anyt
ry to setup my windows shares:
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With OpenSolaris, you can get the SMB server with the package manager GUI.
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On 04/ 2/10 10:25 AM, Ian Collins wrote:
Is this callstack familiar to anyone? It just happened on a Solaris
10 update 8 box:
genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] fe8000d1b830
unix:real_mode_end+7f81 ()
genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] fe8000d1b910 unix:trap+5e6 ()
genunix: [ID 655072
hope it's 2010.$Autumn, I don't fancy waiting until October.
Hint: the southern hemisphere does exist!
As to which build is more stable, that depends what you want to do with it.
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data is mirrored? Or I should use snapshots to replace that?
If you add a disk as a mirror, it will be resilvered as an exact copy
(mirror!) of the original.
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On 04/17/10 10:09 AM, Richard Elling wrote:
On Apr 16, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
On 04/17/10 09:34 AM, MstAsg wrote:
I have a question. I have a disk that solaris 10& zfs is installed. I wanted
to add the other disks and replace this with the other. (totally t
ct the old rpool drive
This should work, right? I plan to test it on a VirtualBox instance
first, but does anyone see a problem with the general steps I've laid
out?
It should work. You aren't changing your current rpool (and you could
probably import it read only for the co
locked up in snapshots.
I've been there and it was a pain. Now I use nested filesystems for
storing media files, so removing snapshots is more manageable.
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On 04/18/10 01:25 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
From: Ian Collins [mailto:i...@ianshome.com]
But is a fundamental of zfs:
snapshot
A read-only version of a file system or volume at a
given point in time. It is specified as filesys...@name
or vol
Having looked through the forum I gather that you cannot just add an additional
device to to raidz pool. This being the case is what are the alternatives that
I could to expand a raidz pool?
Thanks
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Having looked through the forum I gather that you cannot just add an additional
device to to raidz pool. This being the case is what are the alternatives that
I could to expand a raidz pool?
Either replace *all* the drives with bigger ones, or add
Thats not easy for me, I have all the storage spilt up into the same size LUNS
so I can't allocate larger luns and the vdev (looking at previous posts) won't
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Or use the two 500GB and the 750 GB drive for the raidz.
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drive for the
raidz.
And lose my existing data on those 2 500GB disks?
Copy it back form the temporary pool, you are replacing your existing
pool, aren't you? So you'll loose the data on it regardless.
Please, at least read the post before replying:(
x27;t take that long, so two copies with sensible pool topologies
may be quicker than one with a bad one.
c) you will have a spare 1TB drive to put in a USB enclosure and use for
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> Having looked thr
On 04/22/10 06:59 AM, Justin Lee Ewing wrote:
So I can obviously see what zpools I have imported... but how do I see
pools that have been exported? Kind of like being able to see
deported volumes using "vxdisk -o alldgs list".
"zpool import", kind of counte
e.
The system will come up, but failure to mount any filesystems in the
absent pool will cause the filesystem/local service to be in maintenance
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there is no failed disk in the pool.
Can anyone "interpret" this ? Is this a bug ?
Was the drive c3t12d0 replaced or faulty at some point?
You should be able to detach the spare.
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block I/O?
I've found latency to be the killer rather than throughput, at lest when
receiving snapshots. In normal operation, receiving an empty snapshot
is a sub-second operation. While resilvering, at can take up to 30
seconds. The write speed on bigger snapshots is still acceptable.
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On 04/28/10 10:01 AM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, Ian Collins wrote:
On 04/28/10 03:17 AM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
Hi all
I have a test system with snv134 and 8x2TB drives in RAIDz2 and
currently no Zil or L2ARC. I noticed the I/O speed to NFS shares on
the testpool
be I am doing something wrong. May be it is just about using '-f' flag and
things will work out and nothing will break. Is it? I look fwd to guidance from
the community on this.
Post back the output of the upgrade commands an the errors you get when
impor
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, but otherwise, the
scrub is most useful for discovering bit-rot in singly-redundant pools.
I agree.
I look after an x4500 with a poll of raidz2 vdevs that I can't run
scrubs on due the the dire impact on performance. That's one reason I'd
never use raidz1 in a r
On 05/ 1/10 03:09 PM, devsk wrote:
Looks like the X's vesa driver can only use 1600x1200 resolution and not the
native 1920x1200.
Asking these question on the ZFS list isn't going to get you very far.
Troy the opensolaris-help list
zpool
15. Wouldn't that mean it's impossible to restore your rpool using the CD?
Just make sure you have an up to date live CD when you upgrade your pool.
It's seldom wise to upgrade a pool too quickly after an OS upgrade, you
may find an issue and have t
Hi! We're building our first dedicated ZFS-based NAS/SAN (probably using
Nexenta) and I'd like to run the specs by you all to see if you have any
recommendations. All of it is already bought, but it's not too late to add to
it.
Dell PowerEdge R9102x Intel X7550 2GHz, 8 cores each plus Hyper
whatnot on this share, even
though it is seeing junk data (NTFS on top of iSCSI...) or am I not
getting any benefits from this setup at all (besides thin
provisioning, things like that?)
Yes, the volume is part of your pool, which ZFS looks afte
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"failed" drive is replaced and resilvered, you can "zpool
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nistration tools but
under zfs its function can not be terribly different.
Bob and Ian are right. I was trying to remember the last time I installed
Solaris 10, and the best I can recall, it was around late fall 2007.
The fine folks at Oracle have been making improvements to the product
drives all matched up.
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level and dedup is at the block level. Perhaps I have answered my own
question.
Data that don't compress also tends to be data that doesn't dedup well
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make Solaris re-detect the
hard drives and if so how? I tried format -e but it did not seem to detect the
3 drives I just plugged back in. Is this a BIOS issue?
Assuming hot-swap is supported on your system, what does cfgadm report?
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configured ok
Shows unconfigured, but I do not know what to do next to bring them
online or set them back as "configured" any help is appreciated. Thanks
Run |cfgadm -cconfigure |on the unconfigured Ids|, see the man page for
the gory details.
other's data directory. Set them both up as
file servers, and load balance between the two for incoming requests.
How would anyone suggest doing this?
It sounds like you are looking for AVS.
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a new volume and using that worked fine.
This was on Solaris 10 update 8.
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On 05/13/10 03:27 AM, Lori Alt wrote:
On 05/12/10 04:29 AM, Ian Collins wrote:
I just tried moving a dump volume form rpool into another pool so I
used zfs send/receive to copy the volume (to keep some older dumps)
then ran dumpadm -d to use the new location. This caused a panic.
Nothing
-) ).
This backs up my experiences with x4500s.
I have had several drives "fail" which I have taken off line and
thrashed with format for a couple of days without finding any errors.
Out of 9 or 10 "failures" only one was FUBAR.
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hips).
So I would NOT expect any problems if your MB passes the Device Check
tool (or whatever we're calling it nowadays).
Bit of a chicken and egg that, isn't it?
You need to run the tool to see if the board's worth buying and you need
to buy the board
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