[zfs-discuss] couple of ZFS questions

2010-11-11 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
I will be setting up a NexentaStor Community Edition based ZFS file server. I will be serving some zvols over iSCSI to some FreeBSD machines to host jails in. 1) The ZFS box offers a single iSCSI target that exposes all the zvols as individual disks. When the FreeBSD initiator finds it, i

Re: [zfs-discuss] couple of ZFS questions

2010-11-11 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Xin LI wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 11/11/10 17:57, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: >> >> I will be setting up a NexentaStor Community Edition based ZFS file >> server. I will be serving some zv

Re: [zfs-discuss] couple of ZFS questions

2010-11-12 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Nov 12, 2010, at 5:54 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > > Why are you sharing iscsi from nexenta to freebsd? Wouldn't it be better > for nexenta to simply create zfs filesystems, and then share nfs? Much more > flexible in a lot of ways. Unless your design requirements require limiting > the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ideas for ghetto file server data reliability?

2010-11-15 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Bryan Horstmann-Allen wrote: > +-- > | On 2010-11-15 10:21:06, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > | > | Backups. > | > | Even if you upgrade your hardware to better stuff... with ECC and so on ... >

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs, raidz, spare and jbod

2008-07-25 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
e later for the 1.20.00.15 and there is a -71010 extension. Otherwise, file a bug with Areca. They are pretty good about responding. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net ___ zfs-discuss m

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris-Supported cards with battery backup

2007-01-24 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
them, not from Sun) and they support battery backup. It is what I am using Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ zfs-discuss m

[zfs-discuss] zfs / nfs issue (not performance :-) with courier-imap

2007-01-25 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
nd with the ZIL business to improve performance. Thanks for any insight on how I might have set this up wrong. Thanks Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptogr

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs / nfs issue (not performance :-) with courier-imap

2007-01-25 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
ct). Since those are inherited on the nfs client from the server I updated the permissions on the nfs server and all is well. Thanks Chad benr. --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS or UFS - what to do?

2007-01-26 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
on a lower end scale. I am using 2 Areca RAID-6 controllers, each with an 8 disk raid plus 1 hot spare equal to 1.7TB. ZFS is being used to mirror them. Battery backed with ECC on controller cache of at least 1GB. I am in the process of building this now. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Ne

Re: [zfs-discuss] FYI: ZFS on USB sticks (from Germany)

2007-02-01 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
: zpool and zfs" Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.ope

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on the desktop

2007-04-17 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Apr 17, 2007, at 7:47 AM, Toby Thain wrote: On 17-Apr-07, at 8:33 AM, Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Rayson, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 10:50:41 AM, you wrote: RH> On 4/17/07, David R. Litwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about asking Microsoft to change Shared Source first?? Let's lea

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on the desktop

2007-04-17 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Apr 17, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Toby Thain wrote: On 17-Apr-07, at 12:15 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Apr 17, 2007, at 7:47 AM, Toby Thain wrote: On 17-Apr-07, at 8:33 AM, Robert Milkowski wrote: ... I belive that ZFS definitely belongs on a desktop, Apple (and I

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mac OS X "Leopard" to use ZFS

2007-06-07 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Jun 7, 2007, at 12:50 PM, Rick Mann wrote: From Macintouch (http://macintouch.com/#other.2007.06.07): --- On stage Wednesday in Washington D.C., Sun Microsystems Inc. CEO Jonathan Schwartz revealed that his company's open-source ZFS file system will replace Apple's long-used HFS+ in Ma

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mac OS X "Leopard" to use ZFS

2007-06-08 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Jun 8, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Rich Teer wrote: On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, BVK wrote: File based CDDL license seems like a right choice to a company like Apple. My only worry is, Apple never works in open, so their improvements may never get back into the community. But that can't happen (to files t

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS Apple WWDC Keynote Absence

2007-06-12 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Jun 12, 2007, at 9:37 AM, Andy Lubel wrote: Yeah this is pretty sad, we had such plans for actually using our apple (PPC) hardware in our datacenter for something other than AFP and web serving. It also shows how limited apples vision seems to be. I think you are jumping to conclusions

Re: [zfs-discuss] problem ZFS / NFS from FreeBSD nfsv3 client -- periodic NFS server not resp

2006-09-25 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
hanks in advance for any comments or help. thanks Chad This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your

Re: [zfs-discuss] problem ZFS / NFS from FreeBSD nfsv3 client -- periodic NFS server not resp

2006-09-25 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Sep 25, 2006, at 1:15 PM, Mike Kupfer wrote: "Chad" == Chad Leigh <-- Shire.Net LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> writes: Chad> On Sep 25, 2006, at 12:18 PM, eric kustarz wrote: You can also grab a snoop trace to see what packets are not being responded too? Cha

Re: [zfs-discuss] problem ZFS / NFS from FreeBSD nfsv3 client -- periodic NFS server not resp

2006-09-25 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Sep 25, 2006, at 2:49 PM, Mike Kupfer wrote: "Chad" == Chad Leigh <-- Shire.Net LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> writes: Chad> There seems to be no packet headers or time stamps or anything -- Chad> just a lot of binary data. What am I looking for? Use "

Re: [zfs-discuss] problem ZFS / NFS from FreeBSD nfsv3 client -- periodic NFS server not resp

2006-09-25 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Sep 25, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Mike Kupfer wrote: "Chad" == Chad Leigh <-- Shire.Net LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> writes: Chad> so -t a should show wall clock time The capture file always records absolute time. So you (just) need to use "-t a" when you

Re: [zfs-discuss] problem ZFS / NFS from FreeBSD nfsv3 client -- periodic NFS server not resp

2006-09-25 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: I have set up a Solaris 10 U2 06/06 system that has basic patches to the latest -19 kernel patch and latest zfs genesis etc as recommended. I have set up a basic pool (local) and a bunch of sub- pools (local/mail, local/mail/shire.net, local/mail

Re: [zfs-discuss] problem ZFS / NFS from FreeBSD nfsv3 client -- periodic NFS server not resp

2006-09-26 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Sep 26, 2006, at 12:24 PM, Mike Kupfer wrote: "Chad" == Chad Leigh <-- Shire.Net LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> writes: Chad> snoop does not show me the reply packets going back. What do I Chad> need to do to go both ways? It's possible that performanc

Re: [zfs-discuss] problem ZFS / NFS from FreeBSD nfsv3 client -- periodic NFS server not resp

2006-09-28 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Sep 26, 2006, at 12:26 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Sep 26, 2006, at 12:24 PM, Mike Kupfer wrote: "Chad" == Chad Leigh <-- Shire.Net LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> writes: Chad> snoop does not show me the reply packets going back. What do I Ch

Re: [zfs-discuss] A versioning FS

2006-10-05 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
ould LOVE to have a VMS style (sorry, my TOPS-20 usage was very little so I have no remembrance of it there) file versioning built in to the system. "save early, save often" ONLY makes sense with a file versioning system, or else you lose previous edits if you decide you have

Re: [zfs-discuss] A versioning FS

2006-10-05 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Oct 5, 2006, at 7:47 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: I find the "unix" conventions of storying a file and file~ or any of the other myriad billion ways of doing it that each app has invented to be much more unwieldy. sorry, "storing" a file, not "

Re: [zfs-discuss] A versioning FS

2006-10-06 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
expect certain names... I am not one to expound on how that would be done or details as I am not by any means a guru of "low level unix-style things. But I would dearly like to have a versioning capability. Best Chad cheers Michael Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Oct 5, 2006,

It's Back (but worse and different) Re: [zfs-discuss] problem ZFS / NFS from FreeBSD nfsv3 client -- periodic NFS server not resp

2006-10-06 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Sep 28, 2006, at 1:54 AM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Sep 26, 2006, at 12:26 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Sep 26, 2006, at 12:24 PM, Mike Kupfer wrote: "Chad" == Chad Leigh <-- Shire.Net LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> writes: Chad> sn

Re: [zfs-discuss] A versioning FS

2006-10-06 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
file versioning (#1, #2, maybe #3) is much worse than a true file versioning user experience. People are oriented to their files, not to snapshots. And I may not want versioning with all my files (object files etc) which you would get with the snapshots. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net

Re: [zfs-discuss] A versioning FS

2006-10-06 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Oct 6, 2006, at 3:14 PM, Erik Trimble wrote: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: disclaimer: I have not used zfs snapshots a lot as I am still experimenting with zfs, but they appear to be similar to freebsd snapshots, with which I am familiar. The user experience with snapshots, in

Re: [zfs-discuss] A versioning FS

2006-10-06 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
ESIGNED with the idea in mind, already have a user base trained to use and expect it, and virtually all usage was local (i.e. no network filesharing). None of this is true in the UNIX/POSIX world. And does not affects its usefulness. Chad -Erik _

Re: [zfs-discuss] A versioning FS

2006-10-06 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Oct 6, 2006, at 3:53 PM, Nicolas Williams wrote: On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 03:30:20PM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Oct 6, 2006, at 3:08 PM, Erik Trimble wrote: OK. So, now we're on to FV. As Nico pointed out, FV is going to need a new API. Using the VMS conventi

Re: [zfs-discuss] A versioning FS

2006-10-06 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
u are editing geometrically more files. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] A versioning FS

2006-10-06 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
sion (or 2 ago or whatever). I cannot do that in the current situation. Chad -Erik ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] A versioning FS

2006-10-06 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
generate versions. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opens

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Performance Question

2006-10-30 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
econd RAID-6 will be installed before XMas) Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolari

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS Performance Question

2006-10-31 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/list

Re: [zfs-discuss] poor NFS/ZFS performance

2006-11-21 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
not synching the entire pool on every sync but just the stuff needed or something like that. I heard it kind of 2nd or 3rd hand so cannot be to detailed in my description. Can someone here "in the know" confirm that this is so (or not)? Thanks Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.

Re: [zfs-discuss] poor NFS/ZFS performance

2006-11-22 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Nov 22, 2006, at 4:11 PM, Al Hopper wrote: No problem there! ZFS rocks. NFS/ZFS is a bad combination. Has anyone tried sharing a ZFS fs using samba or afs or something else besides nfs? Do we have the same issues? Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Production ZFS Server Death (06/06)

2006-12-01 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
e are others running production systems on RAID systems that they trust, but don't realize may have bugs (causing data corruption) that have yet to be discovered? And this is different from any other storage system, how? (ie, JBOD controllers and disks can also have subtle bugs that corrupt data

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Production ZFS Server Death (06/06)

2006-12-01 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Dec 1, 2006, at 4:34 PM, Dana H. Myers wrote: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Dec 1, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Al Hopper wrote: Followup: When you say you "fixed the HW", I'm curious as to what you found and if this experience with ZFS convinced you that your trusted R

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Production ZFS Server Death (06/06)

2006-12-01 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Dec 1, 2006, at 10:17 PM, Ian Collins wrote: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Dec 1, 2006, at 4:34 PM, Dana H. Myers wrote: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: And this is different from any other storage system, how? (ie, JBOD controllers and disks can also have subtle bugs

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Production ZFS Server Death (06/06)

2006-12-01 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Dec 1, 2006, at 10:42 PM, Toby Thain wrote: On 1-Dec-06, at 6:36 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Dec 1, 2006, at 4:34 PM, Dana H. Myers wrote: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Dec 1, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Al Hopper wrote: Followup: When you say you "fixed the HW&

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Production ZFS Server Death (06/06)

2006-12-01 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Dec 2, 2006, at 12:06 AM, Ian Collins wrote: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Dec 1, 2006, at 10:17 PM, Ian Collins wrote: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: There is not? People buy disk drives and expect them to corrupt their data? I expect the drives I buy to work fine

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Production ZFS Server Death (06/06)

2006-12-01 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
on failure by mounting the file storage from the zfs/nfs array and restarting the services from the crashed server on the new server... Cheers Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net smime.p7s Description: S/MIM

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Production ZFS Server Death (06/06)

2006-12-02 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
that it basically said the whole 20GB pool was dead and I seriously doubt all 20GB was corrupted. Chad Casper --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Production ZFS Server Death (06/06)

2006-12-02 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Dec 2, 2006, at 10:56 AM, Al Hopper wrote: On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Dec 2, 2006, at 6:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While other file systems, when they become corrupt, allow you to salvage data :-) They allow you to salvage what you *think* is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Production ZFS Server Death (06/06)

2006-12-02 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Dec 2, 2006, at 12:29 PM, Jeff Victor wrote: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Dec 2, 2006, at 10:56 AM, Al Hopper wrote: On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Dec 2, 2006, at 6:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While other file systems, when they become

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Production ZFS Server Death (06/06)

2006-12-06 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Dec 2, 2006, at 12:35 PM, Dick Davies wrote: On 02/12/06, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Dec 2, 2006, at 10:56 AM, Al Hopper wrote: > On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: >> On Dec 2, 2006, at 6:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wr