Re: [zfs-discuss] working closed blob driver

2008-09-29 Thread James C. McPherson
Miles Nordin wrote: >> "jcm" == James C McPherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >jcm> Can I assume that my "2008-07-26 post" was in fact two >jcm> messages that were sent to you and cc'd to zfs-discuss: >jcm> > http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/2008-July/049605.htm

Re: [zfs-discuss] working closed blob driver

2008-09-29 Thread Miles Nordin
> "jcm" == James C McPherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: jcm> Can I assume that my "2008-07-26 post" was in fact two jcm> messages that were sent to you and cc'd to zfs-discuss: jcm> http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/2008-July/049605.html jcm> and jcm> http://mai

Re: [zfs-discuss] working closed blob driver

2008-09-28 Thread James C. McPherson
Miles Nordin wrote: >> "jcm" == James C McPherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "t" == Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [snip argument over definitions] > jm> > http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/uts/common/io/mega_sas > > so, this means there _i

Re: [zfs-discuss] working closed blob driver

2008-09-28 Thread Miles Nordin
> "jcm" == James C McPherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "t" == Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: jcm> find out from Miles why mega_sas is "new and unproven" jcm> given that it's been in NV since build 88. This has degenerated to an argument over definition, so if you like I can r

Re: [zfs-discuss] working closed blob driver

2008-09-26 Thread James C. McPherson
Tim wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Miles Nordin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > "t" == Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > t> > http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USASLP-L8i.cfm > I'm n

Re: [zfs-discuss] working closed blob driver

2008-09-26 Thread Tim
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Will Murnane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 21:51, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is not a UIO card. It's a standard PCI-E card. What the > description > > is telling you is that you can combine it with a UIO card to add raid > > fun

Re: [zfs-discuss] working closed blob driver

2008-09-26 Thread Will Murnane
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 21:51, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is not a UIO card. It's a standard PCI-E card. What the description > is telling you is that you can combine it with a UIO card to add raid > functionality as there is none built-in. Not so. The description [1] mentions that th

Re: [zfs-discuss] working closed blob driver

2008-09-26 Thread Tim
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Miles Nordin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "t" == Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > t> > http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USASLP-L8i.cfm > > I'm not sure. A different thing is wrong with it depending on what > driver attaches t

Re: [zfs-discuss] working closed blob driver

2008-09-26 Thread Tim
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Will Murnane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 18:51, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So what's wrong with this card? > > http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USASLP-L8i.cfm > If you have a UIO slot (many recent Supermicro b

Re: [zfs-discuss] working closed blob driver

2008-09-26 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 21:59, Miles Nordin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "wm" == Will Murnane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >wm> I'd rather have a working closed blob than a driver that is >wm> Free Software for a device that is faulty. Ideals are very >wm> nice, but broken hardwa

Re: [zfs-discuss] working closed blob driver

2008-09-26 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 18:51, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So what's wrong with this card? > http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USASLP-L8i.cfm If you have a UIO slot (many recent Supermicro boards do) then it's a fine choice. But if you have a non-Supermicro board, you m

Re: [zfs-discuss] working closed blob driver

2008-09-26 Thread Miles Nordin
> "t" == Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: t> http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USASLP-L8i.cfm I'm not sure. A different thing is wrong with it depending on what driver attaches to it. I can't tell for sure because this page: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/

Re: [zfs-discuss] working closed blob driver

2008-09-25 Thread James C. McPherson
Miles Nordin wrote: >> "jcm" == James C McPherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >jcm> I assume you're referring to mpt(7d) here? > >jcm> Since we started shipping it at all, with Solaris _8_, it's >jcm> definitely been available in Solaris 10. > > no, I was mistaken then. > > My

Re: [zfs-discuss] working closed blob driver

2008-09-25 Thread Tim
> > >But to be honest I don't wish for a driver for every chip---I'm >not trying to ``convert'' machines, I buy them specifically for >the task. I just want an open driver that works well for some >fairly-priced card I can actually buy. I'm willing to fight the >OEM problem: >

Re: [zfs-discuss] working closed blob driver

2008-09-25 Thread Miles Nordin
> "jcm" == James C McPherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: jcm> I assume you're referring to mpt(7d) here? jcm> Since we started shipping it at all, with Solaris _8_, it's jcm> definitely been available in Solaris 10. no, I was mistaken then. My perhaps mistaken understanding though

Re: [zfs-discuss] working closed blob driver

2008-09-25 Thread James C. McPherson
Miles Nordin wrote: ... > On Solaris there is one closed driver (LSI) and one open driver > (AHCI) that works sort-of well but not as well as Linux, and > doesn't support advanced features. The open driver isn't > obtainable as an add-on card and doesn't support port multipliers, >

[zfs-discuss] working closed blob driver

2008-09-25 Thread Miles Nordin
> "wm" == Will Murnane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: wm> I'd rather have a working closed blob than a driver that is wm> Free Software for a device that is faulty. Ideals are very wm> nice, but broken hardware isn't. except, 1. part of the reason the closed Solaris drivers are (a