>>>>> "jcm" == James C McPherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>>> "t" == Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
jcm> find out from Miles why mega_sas is "new and unproven"
jcm> given that it's been in NV since build 88.
This has degenerated to an argument over definition, so if you like I
can retract ``new and unproven'' and replace my comment with:
* it has not yet been in any stable release of solaris
* it is more new and unproven than any other solaris SATA driver
* it's a lot more new and unproven than the Marvell driver is/was
when it is/was causing major problems
jcm> Miles - if you're seeing problems with it, please let us know
jcm> so that we can fix them. If you don't tell us, how will we
jcm> ever know?
yeah, I'm not seeing problems, because I'm not using it. But I do not
need to use it to point out the three things above, nor the lack of
source.
c> * may require expensive cables
t> Nope, cables are standardized. I'm not sure what your
t> definition of "expensive" is but I believe they were roughly
t> 15$ for a SAS>>4sata ports.
plain SATA is $1/cable so $15/4cable is fine to my view. If you could
post again where you buy them for that price, the thread might be more
useful to people not so captivated by our bickering. :)
t> I'm also not sure what good port multipliers are going to do
t> you in this instance...
this seems obvious to me: however many drives you can use without
port multipliers, they let you use five times that many.
The point of source is that, even if you or Sun doesn't think port
multipliers or smartctl are important, someone else with a different
opinion has enough software freedom to add the support himself. I do
think PMP support is too bad, but not having enough software freedom
to add it is, to my view, unacceptable under current ``market
forces.''
jm>
http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/uts/common/io/mega_sas
so, this means there _is_ source, under BSD license? This is the
whole driver or one of those ``shims''? I thought the BSD-licensed
driver was unbundled mfi available from:
http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~dlg/mfi/
and that the bundled mega_sas didn't include source. Is it newly
opened-up, or is that not the complete source, or I misunderstood your
2008-07-26 post?
I guess I am not the only one who can't easily tell what's open and
what isn't, or someone would have corrected me sooner. If it's not
fully open, again it's hard to tell.
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