i just called them. zero. however, they claim only 2-3 day order time.
On March 30, 2009 4:56:21 PM -0400 Blake wrote:
no idea how many of these there are:
http://www.google.com/products?q=570-1182&hl=en&show=li
2009/3/30 Tim :
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:56 AM, Mike Futerko wrote:
Hell
| > FWIW, it looks like someone at Sun saw the complaints in this thread and or
| > (more likely) had enough customer complaints. ??It appears you can buy the
| > tray independently now. ??Although, it's $500 (so they're apparently made
| > entirely of diamond and platinum). ??In Sun marketing's de
no idea how many of these there are:
http://www.google.com/products?q=570-1182&hl=en&show=li
2009/3/30 Tim :
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:56 AM, Mike Futerko wrote:
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> > 1) Dual IO module option
>> > 2) Multipath support
>> > 3) Zone support [multi host connecting to same JBOD
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:56 AM, Mike Futerko wrote:
> Hello
>
> > 1) Dual IO module option
> > 2) Multipath support
> > 3) Zone support [multi host connecting to same JBOD or same set of JBOD's
> > connected in series. ]
>
> This sounds interesting - where I can read more about connecting two
>
Hello
> 1) Dual IO module option
> 2) Multipath support
> 3) Zone support [multi host connecting to same JBOD or same set of JBOD's
> connected in series. ]
This sounds interesting - where I can read more about connecting two
hosts to same J4200 etc?
Thanks
Mike
_
> "b" == Blake writes:
b> ZFS can preserve data all day long, but that doesn't help much
b> if the controller misbehaves
the most common kind of controller, or rather driver, misbehavior is
to time out commands to failed drives while ZFS waits inappropriately
long, or to freeze ac
>> Fax +90212335
>> Email mertol.ozyo...@sun.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> [mailto:zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Richard Elling
>> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 10:2
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[mailto:zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Richard Elling
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 10:24 PM
To: John-Paul Drawneek
Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org
Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] j4200 drive carriers
John-Paul Drawneek wrote:
the J series i
n.com
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Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 10:24 PM
To: John-Paul Drawneek
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Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] j4200 drive carriers
John
On February 1, 2009 8:30:21 AM -0800 Frank Cusack
wrote:
nevermind, i will just get a Promise array.
Don't. I don't normally like to badmouth vendors, but my experience
with Promise was one of the worst in my career, for reasons that should
be relevant other ZFS-oriented customers.
recommen
+--
| On 2009-02-02 09:46:49, casper@sun.com wrote:
|
| And think of all the money it costs to stock and distribute that
| separate part. (And our infrastructure is still expensive; too expensive
| for a $5 part)
Fa
>The drives that Sun sells will come with the correct bracket.
>Ergo, there is no reason to sell the bracket as a separate
>item unless the customer wishes to place non-Sun disks in
>them. That represents a service liability for Sun, so they are
>not inclined to do so. It is really basic busine
+--
| On 2009-02-01 20:55:46, Richard Elling wrote:
|
| The astute observer will note that the bracket for the X41xx family
| works elsewhere. For example,
|
http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Sys
Bryan Allen wrote:
> +--
> | On 2009-02-01 16:29:59, Richard Elling wrote:
> |
> | The drives that Sun sells will come with the correct bracket.
> | Ergo, there is no reason to sell the bracket as a separate
> | item unles
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
> I am worried that Sun is primarily interested in new business and
> tends to not offer replacement/new drives for as long as the actual
> service-life of the array. What is the poor customer to do when Sun
> is no longer willing to offer a service con
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009, Richard Elling wrote:
> The drives that Sun sells will come with the correct bracket.
> Ergo, there is no reason to sell the bracket as a separate
> item unless the customer wishes to place non-Sun disks in
> them. That represents a service liability for Sun, so they are
> not
+--
| On 2009-02-01 16:29:59, Richard Elling wrote:
|
| The drives that Sun sells will come with the correct bracket.
| Ergo, there is no reason to sell the bracket as a separate
| item unless the customer wishes to place
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009, Richard Elling wrote:
> The drives that Sun sells will come with the correct bracket.
> Ergo, there is no reason to sell the bracket as a separate
> item unless the customer wishes to place non-Sun disks in
> them. That represents a service liability for Sun, so they are
> no
On Sun, February 1, 2009 14:24, Richard Elling wrote:
> John-Paul Drawneek wrote:
>> the J series is far to new to be hitting ebay yet.
>>
>> Any alot of people will not be buying the J series for obvious reasons
>>
>
> The obvious reason is that Sun cannot service random disk
> drives you buy fro
Tim wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Richard Elling
> mailto:richard.ell...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> John-Paul Drawneek wrote:
> > the J series is far to new to be hitting ebay yet.
> >
> > Any alot of people will not be buying the J series for obvious
> reasons
>
On February 1, 2009 12:02:11 PM -0800 Frédéric VANNIERE
wrote:
> J4200 is cheap compared to custom made solutions (Supermicro + 3Ware).
i can't see how that math works.
by the time i fully populate a J4200 (12TB), Sun charges in the $10k
neighborhood. i can do this using Promise or Xtore or wh
On February 1, 2009 12:24:08 PM -0800 Richard Elling
wrote
> John-Paul Drawneek wrote:
>> the J series is far to new to be hitting ebay yet.
>>
>> Any alot of people will not be buying the J series for obvious reasons
>>
>
> The obvious reason is that Sun cannot service random disk
> drives you b
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009, Tim wrote:
> I don't think anyone is asking Sun to service disks that aren't
> theirs, but to claim that's a reason for not selling drive trays is
> crap. You already claimed in the other thread that Sun has
> contracts for custom disks so they don't have to worry about sho
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 14:45:28 -0600
Tim wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Richard Elling
> wrote:
>
> > John-Paul Drawneek wrote:
> > > the J series is far to new to be hitting ebay yet.
> > >
> > > Any alot of people will not be buying the J series for obvious
> > > reasons
> > >
> >
> >
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Richard Elling wrote:
> John-Paul Drawneek wrote:
> > the J series is far to new to be hitting ebay yet.
> >
> > Any alot of people will not be buying the J series for obvious reasons
> >
>
> The obvious reason is that Sun cannot service random disk
> drives you buy
John-Paul Drawneek wrote:
> the J series is far to new to be hitting ebay yet.
>
> Any alot of people will not be buying the J series for obvious reasons
>
The obvious reason is that Sun cannot service random disk
drives you buy from Fry's (or elsewhere). People who value data
tend to value ser
J4200 is cheap compared to custom made solutions (Supermicro + 3Ware). Ask a
Sun reseller for a quote. There is also the Sun Startup Essentials program with
great prices on storage systems.
Last year I've bought an Infortrend RAID array with custom disks but today I
would choose a J4400 + 24 T
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:30, Frank Cusack wrote:
> recommendations for an alternative?
At work we just ordered a Supermicro CSE-846E1-R900B [1]: 24 hot-swap
bays, redundant 900W power supplies, LSI SAS expander. This doesn't
quite make a JBOD by itself (it's designed to be used as a case for a
w
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Frank Cusack wrote:
> >> nevermind, i will just get a Promise array.
> >
> > Don't. I don't normally like to badmouth vendors, but my experience
> > with Promise was one of the worst in my career, for reasons that should
> > be relevant other ZFS-oriented custome
>> nevermind, i will just get a Promise array.
>
> Don't. I don't normally like to badmouth vendors, but my experience
> with Promise was one of the worst in my career, for reasons that should
> be relevant other ZFS-oriented customers.
recommendations for an alternative?
> nevermind, i will just get a Promise array.
Don't. I don't normally like to badmouth vendors, but my experience
with Promise was one of the worst in my career, for reasons that should
be relevant other ZFS-oriented customers.
We ordered a Promise array because their tech sheet said Solaris was
the J series is far to new to be hitting ebay yet.
Any alot of people will not be buying the J series for obvious reasons
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Frank Cusack wrote:
> apparently if you don't order a J4200 with drives, you just get filler
> sleds that won't accept a hard drive. (had to look at a parts breakdown
> on sunsolve to figure this out -- the docs should simply make this clear.)
>
> it looks like the sled that will accept a drive is
On January 30, 2009 1:31:46 PM -0800 Frank Cusack
wrote:
> apparently if you don't order a J4200 with drives, you just get filler
> sleds that won't accept a hard drive. (had to look at a parts breakdown
> on sunsolve to figure this out -- the docs should simply make this clear.)
>
> it looks li
Frank,
> apparently if you don't order a J4200 with drives, you just get filler
> sleds that won't accept a hard drive. (had to look at a parts breakdown
> on sunsolve to figure this out -- the docs should simply make this clear.)
>
> it looks like the sled that will accept a drive is part #570-1
apparently if you don't order a J4200 with drives, you just get filler
sleds that won't accept a hard drive. (had to look at a parts breakdown
on sunsolve to figure this out -- the docs should simply make this clear.)
it looks like the sled that will accept a drive is part #570-1182.
anyone know
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