Hi, Jonathan,
I asked my font vendor and they explained that when specific kerning
pair accompanies a kerning class, it work as "class exception" rather
than a correction to the kerning for classes. There are several words
about it in Opentype specification. (Unfortunately, I didn't find
anything
On 13 Oct 2010, at 16:51, Vadim Radionov wrote:
>> Are all those lookup tables assigned to the 'kern' feature within the same
>> script and language system? If so, then they're cumulative. If the lookups
>> are each assigned to a different script/language, then they shouldn't all be
>> applied
> Are all those lookup tables assigned to the 'kern' feature within the same
> script and language system? If so, then they're cumulative. If the lookups
> are each assigned to a different script/language, then they shouldn't all be
> applied at the same time.
Thank you, Jonathan,
Yes, they we
Am 13.10.2010 um 14:41 schrieb Vadim Radionov:
It is stated in the second paragraph of
texlive/2010/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf that any changes should be done in
texlive/2010/texmf.cnf. The output of xetex with -kpathsea-debug=3
show in my case
kdebug:hash_lookup(TEXMFHOME) => ~/texmf-texlive-2010
On 13 Oct 2010, at 14:10, Vadim Radionov wrote:
> I finally found the explanation. Mea culpa, it was in the kerning in
> the font. All 3 lookup tables contained kerning -50 for small caps
> Cyrillic `t' and `a', and the was another one of -60 in kerning
> classes, which gave the total of -210.
>
I finally found the explanation. Mea culpa, it was in the kerning in
the font. All 3 lookup tables contained kerning -50 for small caps
Cyrillic `t' and `a', and the was another one of -60 in kerning
classes, which gave the total of -210.
I'm not sure if it is allowed and what should be the defaul
> XeTeX does not work correctly, it stumbles over an error. What makes you
> assume that the output could then be correct?
Sorry, I missed it. Where was the error -- except for wrong kerning
in the output?
> BTW, texlive/2010/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf is the configuration file read by
> *TeX utiliti
Am 12.10.2010 um 21:09 schrieb Vadim Radionov:
I did this and found nothing suspicious (logs attached), except for
TEXMFHOME which points to 2 directories (I used to think that setting
variable in texlive//texmf.cnf overrides
texlive//texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf, but their values both are use
Hi, Peter,
> IMO it looks like some bug somewhere. This could be XeTeX and this could be
> xdvipdfmx. Create, empty page, one XDV file with TL '09 and another one with
> TL '10. By "patching" the XDV files you could disassemble with, for example,
> dvitype, because they are very DVI-sh. (Or send t
Hi, Vladimir,
> From you results I could deduce that something wrong goes with xetex
> from TL2010. You could enable kpathsea debugging and record used files
> (-recorder, -kpathsea-debug=1 or 2 or 3, but beware it will generate a
> lot of outout) to compare them.
I did this and found nothing sus
Am 12.10.2010 um 14:30 schrieb Vadim Radionov:
xdvipdfmx -vv for both cases
Both logs look OK. You could avoid one annoyance, the use of cmr10, by
adding \pagestyle{empty} or
\thispagestyle{empty} that no page numbers or such are output.
IMO it looks like some bug somewhere. This could be
Am 12.10.2010 um 14:08 schrieb Vadim Radionov:
What could be the next step?
You could run pdffonts on the PDF files and invoke xdvipdfmx with more
verbosity/debug information. See 'xdvipdfmx --help'!
Vadim
PS. There's also strange difference in A4 paper size.
I presume that each sin
Hi, Vladimir,
> From you results I could deduce that something wrong goes with xetex
> from TL2010. You could enable kpathsea debugging and record used files
> (-recorder, -kpathsea-debug=1 or 2 or 3, but beware it will generate a
> lot of outout) to compare them.
I am not so sure now. Before I
Hi Vadim.
** Vadim Radionov [2010-10-12 16:08:30 +0400]:
>> Ok. you could check if this problem of engine or driver (xdvipdfmx) in
>> following way:
>> 1. Make pdf with xetex from TL2009:
>> $ xetex test.tex
>> Save pdf as, for example, test_2009.pdf
>>
>> 2. Make pdf with xetex from TL2010:
>>
xdvipdfmx -vv for both cases
log-old
Description: Binary data
log-tl2010
Description: Binary data
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Hi, Vladimir,
Thank you for your assistance.
> Ok. you could check if this problem of engine or driver (xdvipdfmx) in
> following way:
> 1. Make pdf with xetex from TL2009:
> $ xetex test.tex
> Save pdf as, for example, test_2009.pdf
>
> 2. Make pdf with xetex from TL2010:
> $ xetex test.tex
>
Hi Vadim.
** Vadim Radionov [2010-10-11 19:31:50 +0400]:
> Hi, Vladimir,
>
> My question was not about kerning in this commercial font. It was
> about 2 instances of xetex that gave 2 different result. And i asked
> how i can figure out what's wrong with one of them (texlive 2010).
Ok. you could
Hi, Vladimir,
My question was not about kerning in this commercial font. It was
about 2 instances of xetex that gave 2 different result. And i asked
how i can figure out what's wrong with one of them (texlive 2010).
>> also gives good kerning with xetex
> I don't understand here. Kerning is alway
Hi Vadim.
** Vadim Radionov [2010-10-11 03:39:58 +0400]:
>> Do Cyrillic small capital letters exist? I would have thought they're
>> typical Latin...
>
> Only few cyrillic letter have different capital shapes, probably
> that's why they are no so popular.
> Anyway, many perfect modern fonts have
> Do Cyrillic small capital letters exist? I would have thought they're
> typical Latin...
Only few cyrillic letter have different capital shapes, probably
that's why they are no so popular.
Anyway, many perfect modern fonts have them.
> I don't have fontspec version 2.x around, but Will wrote th
Am 11.10.2010 um 00:29 schrieb Vadim Radionov:
I compiled the same source with 2 instances of xelatex, the one from
texlive 2010 works not as i expected
I don't have fontspec version 2.x around, but Will wrote that he
changed many things, in xltxtra as well. Could you compare the
definiti
Am 11.10.2010 um 00:29 schrieb Vadim Radionov:
\textsc{та}
Do Cyrillic small capital letters exist? I would have thought they're
typical Latin...
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Hi, Peter,
Sorry for annoying citing (I was not sure how to post to the same
thread rather then to start a new one, so i replied to my own messafe)
and whitespace.
> Instead of citing the whole old message it could have been interesting to
> see the different sources which lead to so different ou
Am 10.10.2010 um 21:48 schrieb Vadim Radionov:
What can be done to investigate and fix it?
Instead of citing the whole old message it could have been interesting
to see the different sources which lead to so different outputs...
BTW, \listfiles can be a nice part of a preamble.
It also
Hello again,
I would be very grateful if someone help me with this problem. Two
examples of (presumably) right (test1.pdf) and wrong (test.pdf)
kerning are attached. What can be done to investigate and fix it?
Thank you in advance
Vadim
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Vadim Radionov wrote:
> D
Dear all,
I installed texlive-2010 recently (parallel to my old texlive tree).
With new xelatex processing goes considerably slower (about 5 times).
And, even worse, i've got wrong kerning (with coexisting older version
= XeTeXk, Version 3.141592-2.2-0.996-patch1 (Web2C 7.5.6) everything
still wor
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