Re: [WiX-users] Removing files as part of upgrade

2015-06-12 Thread Keith.Douglas
(Thanks to Rob's post, too.) But: I am not sure why I read both the post, the WiX documentation (under Component), but it sounds like to me that the Guid attribute on Component is what is supposed to be stable, not the ComponentId. Nevertheless, I have written a new mechanism for generating the

Re: [WiX-users] Removing files as part of upgrade

2015-06-12 Thread Keith.Douglas
Oh, you have to generate a new component ID? Is that the trick? I had forgotten that. Hm, that's going to be interesting for our front end thing to keep track of, since it makes componentids as it goes for everything so that the WXS can be automatically generated from a list of files and various

[WiX-users] Removing files as part of upgrade

2015-06-12 Thread Keith.Douglas
We have some applications which will be changing the actual files they install as they upgrade in the sense that new names will be used. I notice that my default way of doing the upgrades does not *delete* the old ones. (I.e., creating a new WXS with the same upgrade code as the old one but wit

Re: [WiX-users] How to remove empty xmlns attribute

2015-06-12 Thread Keith.Douglas
Are you generating your wxs file by programmatically creating a .NET XML object? I discovered that when I did that I got the xmlns attribute everywhere *unless* I set it deliberately on each tag programmatically. Then and only then it doesn't appear on anything but the WiX tag. I am sure there's

Re: [WiX-users] Patches no longer working for a specific RTM using WiX 3.7 + Pure WiX Patching

2015-06-09 Thread Keith.Douglas
This may be totally off base, so take it with a grain of salt, but: I seem to remember that MSPs generally share a product code with their parent, though it drove me crazy trying to figure that sort of thing out. I have now told my colleagues I don't intent to support them, because they seemed w

Re: [WiX-users] Detect condition for a Burn Package ?

2015-04-28 Thread Keith.Douglas
If I understand correctly this is what I asked about many moons ago. What I was told at the time as a possibility - which we implemented - is that one can "unbundle" and then parse the XML from one of the files: Dim b As New Microsoft.Tools.WindowsInstallerXml.Unbinder Dim out As Microsoft.Tools

Re: [WiX-users] GPO changes

2015-04-27 Thread Keith.Douglas
I've used WMI in the past, so maybe this is doable. Thanks, Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-854-5589 Facsimile | Téléco

[WiX-users] GPO changes

2015-04-27 Thread Keith.Douglas
Our techsupport staff wants to use a GPO change to modify the behaviour of IE on our (non-domained, usually disconnected) laptop fleet that I build installation stuff for. Is there a good way to do this via an installation process? (It seems that ad-hoc replacing the file based version of the se

Re: [WiX-users] Too Many Events Using InstallLogModes

2015-04-22 Thread Keith.Douglas
I may be wrong, but in my experience *any* log contains those. Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-854-5589 Facsimile | Tél

[WiX-users] 3.7 vs. 3.9R2

2015-03-27 Thread Keith.Douglas
Can WiX 3.7 and 3.9R2 live happily on the same machine? We're using 3.7 now but have a big project coming in where we should modernize a bit but not break some stuff ... Keith Douglas Programmer Analyst | Programmeur analyste Questionnaire Development Services - CAI Social | Services de dévelo

[WiX-users] Uninstall another product

2015-01-30 Thread Keith.Douglas
Is it possible for the default bundle behaviour to run an uninstall for an arbitrary ProductCode and UpgradeCode as part of its steps? I realize that ordinarily this would be rather rude, but ... This is because I've got a "related product" I need to remove ideally before installing a chain of M

Re: [WiX-users] Bundle temporary files

2015-01-30 Thread Keith.Douglas
Hi everyone, I am still confused about what is going on with this: a testing machine (which uses the mechanism I described below quite often) now has >200 gigs of these. Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunn

[WiX-users] RegistryKey question

2015-01-19 Thread Keith.Douglas
We were looking into allowing our users to use local web pages without the "Active X/content" warning that this usually provokes (our users are very tech-unsavvy and find having to click this sort of warning to be confusing). Since we need them to generate cookies from these pages we need them t

Re: [WiX-users] Bundle temporary files

2015-01-08 Thread Keith.Douglas
Oh, and to answer Rob: yes, since they go "way back" (see below on the update as to how often they get created). WiX (and hence DTF) 3.7, for what that's worth. Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pastu

Re: [WiX-users] Bundle temporary files

2015-01-08 Thread Keith.Douglas
Update: We figured out that this occurs when our "check if installed" application calls Microsoft.Tools.WindowsInstallerXml.Unbinder.Unbind (from DTF), as we use that to determine the UpgradeCode, as per another post from this list. I save to a temporarily location and overwrite any existing scr

[WiX-users] Bundle temporary files

2015-01-08 Thread Keith.Douglas
We bundle MSUs up with the default bootstrapper for ease of installation of our remote users. A colleague of mine noticed that in c:\users\[logged in user]\appdata\local\temp\ there are a bunch of randomly named folders with a attached.cab and an ux.cab seemingly for each bundle ever run. I tak

Re: [WiX-users] Install certificate in users store

2014-12-02 Thread Keith.Douglas
You can (or at least for some things) use the IISExtension merely to install certificates - I've done that. This was my proof of concept - it should be cleaned up: http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/wi"; xmlns:iis="http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/IIsExtension";>

[WiX-users] Read only flags and MSPs

2014-11-10 Thread Keith.Douglas
Does MSP support changing the read-only flag of files which were in the initial install? If so, how do I ensure I include it in the patch? Keith Douglas Programmer Analyst | Programmeur analyste Questionnaire Development Services - CAI Social | Services de développement de questionnaires - IAO

Re: [WiX-users] KB2918614

2014-10-15 Thread Keith.Douglas
524F6DF34B8 > MSI (s) (0C:F8) [10:18:52:364]: Product: Microsoft SQL Server Compact > 3.5 > SP2 x64 ENU -- Error 1316.The specified account already exists. > > Thanks ! > -Rob > > > Keith.Douglas wrote >> I was given this by one of our internal deployme

[WiX-users] msiexec -Embedding

2014-10-02 Thread Keith.Douglas
I was installing an update to one of our (virtual) machines and noticed that it failed, complaining that an installation was in progress. Since sometimes SCCM and other things auto-drop for us, I figured I'd look to see what it was. With procexp, I found an msiexec -Embedding call being run. Wha

Re: [WiX-users] Shortcuts redux

2014-09-30 Thread Keith.Douglas
Seems to be ok if I tried again from a few versions back. But the bit about the verbosity of verbose logs (or the like) stands ... still I'd like a comment on the below just in case ... Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170,

[WiX-users] Shortcuts redux

2014-09-30 Thread Keith.Douglas
I've just created a new package for a product we're about to upgrade. I see that it doesn't create its desktop shortcut until "repair" is run. We are not creating the (unadvertised) shortcut in any way that is new; it does exactly what the old ones did. I have looked at a few versions back and t

[WiX-users] Shortcuts and "full desktops"

2014-09-29 Thread Keith.Douglas
I noticed that one of my installation packages (which I was internally testing prior to sending it for testing more broadly) seemingly failed to install its shortcuts because there were too many icons on the desktop (in grid mode) already. (I figured this bizarreness out by cleaning some stuff u

[WiX-users] KB2918614

2014-09-23 Thread Keith.Douglas
I'm trying to prepare an uninstall since colleagues insist we deploy the update to our remotes, regardless of the danger ... Uninstall commmands to our bundle that we might try to use seem to only uninstall the bundle, not the contents. We send [bundlename /uninstall /quiet] from our elevated s

[WiX-users] FW: Service Request # 01298424 - KB2918614

2014-09-23 Thread Keith.Douglas
More on the KB breaking Windows Installer thing from my colleagues. Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-854-5589 Facsimile

[WiX-users] KB2918614

2014-09-22 Thread Keith.Douglas
I was given this by one of our internal deployment people this morning. Any thoughts? Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-

Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not create the default key container

2014-09-09 Thread Keith.Douglas
I noticed that your reproduction was only slightly similar to one of the ones from earlier in the thread. The one earlier was an overlapped I/O, yours is a hash being different. Also, didn't some report problems with Windows 7, and your testing is on 8? Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 T

Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not create the default key container

2014-09-08 Thread Keith.Douglas
For what it is worth, I tried one of my investigation packages with a "fake exe" (for the sake of ease of recognizing as a fake) which, needless to say, has no version at all. It seems to upgrade fine with no trouble. Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1

Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not create the default key container

2014-09-08 Thread Keith.Douglas
Let me echo John here, I am trying to help us and also help the community. We are worse off, too, than some, because the machines I deal with are mostly-disconnected remotes which receive the vast majority of their tech support via RDP if at all. It seems that most of the hypotheses around are

Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not create the default key container

2014-09-08 Thread Keith.Douglas
I've now tried a "small update". I've never fully understood why you’d use these, but my co-workers wanted to use MSPs for some of our updating, so I built a front end for making those and hence small updates. That all to say that I may be doing something unusual or "wrong" with them. However, t

Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not create the default key container

2014-09-08 Thread Keith.Douglas
Ah! There seems to be some confusion on this point. I will see. Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-854-5589 Facsimile | Tél

Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not create the default key container

2014-09-05 Thread Keith.Douglas
I've gotten hold of a Windows 7 x64 VM and tried installing, uninstalling, repairing a few dinky products we have built installers for over the last while. Even added a new one with a large (100 megabytes uncompressed) payload. Tried with and without UAC for all. No troubles at all with the trou

Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not create the default key container

2014-08-29 Thread Keith.Douglas
Some of the posts I saw about the topic in other places (e.g. the OpenOffice.org one) seemed to suggest to me that it was local installs as well, but am I not sure I understood the remarks correctly. Incidentally: my chain of command has raised it with the folks that maintain / have access to o

Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not create the default key container

2014-08-28 Thread Keith.Douglas
I got that once when some McAfee product or other was trying to install itself at the same time (we run its AV and a few other things on my target machines), and a few months ago - well before this update. Somehow also when that happens one gets the McAfee product details in the install log cre

Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not create the default key container

2014-08-26 Thread Keith.Douglas
Has anyone with a support contract or the like with Microsoft asked about this? I've pre-emptively raised a concern with some of my colleagues but people don't know what to make of a bunch of isolated forum posts/this list's thread. Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Drive

Re: [WiX-users] When trying to execute a SQL script there are garbage characters

2014-08-06 Thread Keith.Douglas
Looks like it shouldn't be Unicode encoded ... Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-854-5589 Facsimile | Télécopieur 613-951

Re: [WiX-users] [Released Spam | pourriel affranchi] Debugging installer

2014-08-05 Thread Keith.Douglas
I'm not sure if it is applicable in your case, but I seem to remember that when debugging both our service and our installer for it that if you crash the OnStart method or the constructor you'll also get error 1923. So it might be useful to "instrument" your service too and see if you can figure

Re: [WiX-users] Unbinder.Unbind error

2014-08-05 Thread Keith.Douglas
Yes, I figured out as much, but the error condition that results is not exactly clear. Is this under any control that could make this a bit cleaner? At first I thought it meant the image of the EXE I was debundling, for example! Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway,

Re: [WiX-users] Unbinder.Unbind error

2014-08-01 Thread Keith.Douglas
Update: this seems to happen because I was suddenly running a x64 version of things - I had the project set to build as "AnyCPU". This is very strange - I understand the library is 32 bit, but why should it fail with the exception mentioned? That's pretty obscure. (If it is clearer in > WiX 3.7

[WiX-users] Unbinder.Unbind error

2014-08-01 Thread Keith.Douglas
A while ago I built some stuff to investigate properties of a burn bundle (EXE) just in case they got lost when we built them, and also to harvest from others (in case we have some bundles not built by us). As per the list's recommendations, I added a reference to wix.dll and kept winterop.dll n

Re: [WiX-users] Applying two patches causes version number confusion

2014-06-20 Thread Keith.Douglas
I'm no expert, but I do know that Windows Installer doesn't seem to use the 4th digit in versions for much, so is it possible that the fact you only changed it is simply confusing the matter? (I.e., violating expectations somehow so the behaviour isn't right.) Keith Douglas Programmer Analys

Re: [WiX-users] StdBA exit code

2014-06-11 Thread Keith.Douglas
If I recall correctly, one can also get 3010, "restart required", which is sort of intermediary between success and failure, but I am not an expert on these matters. Keith Douglas Programmer Analyst | Programmeur analyste Questionnaire Development Services - CAI Social | Services de développem

[WiX-users] DTF demo code - Inventory

2014-05-06 Thread Keith.Douglas
Are MSIs allowed to have to have no Product Name? Or is this a case of (like the version numbers) that ICE and other tools validate and yet the WI service doesn't actually care, so all sorts of weird stuff can happen? (I ask because I seem to have encountered such a thing, and the DTF demo appl

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Properties and Bundles

2014-04-30 Thread Keith.Douglas
Thanks for this information; I guess I should have mentioned one of the reason why I wanted to do this: I wanted to have this information available in the package itself. Our bundles do not always (almost never) contain MSIs; we just repackage MSUs in them, for the most part, so MsiProperty is o

Re: [WiX-users] Properties and Bundles

2014-04-30 Thread Keith.Douglas
Update: Missed the bit about Manufacturer and how it would work. First question still open though. Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone |

[WiX-users] Properties and Bundles

2014-04-30 Thread Keith.Douglas
We've been using a custom property to assert (until we have signing) the creator of MSIs. Is there a way (built into WiX way) to store custom properties in a burn bundle? If there isn't, what would be a recommendation to replace this approach? Similarly, is there an equivalent of the Manufactur

Re: [WiX-users] Restart manager, services, unattended installs

2014-04-28 Thread Keith.Douglas
Ok, I have discovered something else. For other reasons I've started developing a little notification application for our users. This is to run at login and stay running while they go about their use. It will from time to time remind them of things they should be doing and that sort of thing. Lo

Re: [WiX-users] Restart manager, services, unattended installs

2014-04-25 Thread Keith.Douglas
Do I have to have created a proper ServiceControl *before* I do the upgrade, or can my new package do everything? In any case, I do have ServiceControl Stop="both" and Wait="yes" in the *existing* packages (including the one which was causing some people trouble), so something is funny. Is there

Re: [WiX-users] Restart manager, services, unattended installs

2014-04-25 Thread Keith.Douglas
Hi Marc, I think I'm finally piecing this together: the only very missing part is the interaction with /quiet - if I am not mistaken. But I have one question for everyone: Util:RestartResource - does one use that to register that one wants to restart an *existing* application / service, or does

Re: [WiX-users] Restart manager, services, unattended installs

2014-04-24 Thread Keith.Douglas
Hi Marc, thanks for answering. I am not sure the property you mentioned is the right one: the documentation says that with it set the way you recommend the FilesInUse dialog will be used. But since I do unattended/installs from a service, that doesn't sound useful - since it seems that would fr

[WiX-users] Restart manager, services, unattended installs

2014-04-24 Thread Keith.Douglas
We have a in house windows service installed by a WiX installer. Since our users on these remote systems are not administrators, this install is actually "brokered" by the same service. That is, msiexec is called by the service itself, and the installation is called with /quiet /norestart as we

Re: [WiX-users] Cabinet properties

2014-04-14 Thread Keith.Douglas
Also, it seems if I use 63 or more characters, *candle* complains and tells me: c:\InstallerBuilder\TrainingMaterials\Training Materials-Materiels de Formation\ Wxs\TrainingMaterials-Training Materials-Materiels de Formation-20140414103809.w xs(7) : error CNDL0032 : The Media/@Cabinet attribute's

Re: [WiX-users] Cabinet properties

2014-04-14 Thread Keith.Douglas
It doesn't seem that spaces by themselves are a problem to produce an output - only if the name is long. Spaces do produce ICE03 but the error doesn't seem to be fatal. Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunne

[WiX-users] Cabinet properties

2014-04-14 Thread Keith.Douglas
I have determined through some trial and error that I was running into length limitations on the Cabinet attribute on the Media tag. I note that it only seems to have come up when using light ; candle doesn't seem to care. In Wix 3.7 (we are slow moving on upgrades) this produces a light.exe :

[WiX-users] DTF and burn bundles

2014-03-28 Thread Keith.Douglas
With an MSI one can open it and run a query on it to find its UpgradeCode and ProductCode. Bundles have an UpgradeCode; however, is there an easy way to get that from the EXE itself once built? I'm wanting to update our IsInstalled tool to support them, and to ensure that one is dealing with the

Re: [WiX-users] ReserveCost doesn't appear to reserve disk space

2014-03-14 Thread Keith.Douglas
I suppose it would need a custom action, but couldn't one allocate an NTFS sparse file (assuming an NTFS file system, anyway)? Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 keith.doug...@

Re: [WiX-users] offline install

2014-03-11 Thread Keith.Douglas
Root certificates mattered when I installed 3.7 on Server 2003 a few months ago. Nevertheless, I will await the log ... Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 keith.doug...@statca

Re: [WiX-users] offline install

2014-03-11 Thread Keith.Douglas
That's understandable; are there any other prerequisites? Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-951-4405 Facsimile | Télécopie

Re: [WiX-users] offline install

2014-03-11 Thread Keith.Douglas
Another way into the questions I asked: What precisely are the prerequisites for WiX 3.7 *itself*? Is there any particular reason why these are not in the bundle? Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunn

Re: [WiX-users] offline install

2014-03-11 Thread Keith.Douglas
A co-worker is having trouble doing an offline install of Wix 3.7. I'll send along the log later on (once he can get me a copy), but meanwhile, based on my earlier mishaps: Does Windows 7 ship with the root certificates needed to validate the install? What prerequisites are needed beyond Project

Re: [WiX-users] MSU / raw cab

2014-03-04 Thread Keith.Douglas
Yes, I realize. Unfortunately, even getting people to the point where they'd be willing to give some effort to learn this stuff is proving very difficult (despite the fact that these systems I am working on are vital). Also, I doubt that I could get funding. (See signature.) Shame; I do intend

Re: [WiX-users] MSU / raw cab

2014-03-04 Thread Keith.Douglas
I have wanted to use the built in stuff, and even built a "front end" to make things easier. But my colleagues insist (1) that no MSUs are available or (2) "this is a special case, we can't accommodate". I want to make absolutely certain this is really a matter of WSUS (and SCCM) being all that

Re: [WiX-users] MSU / raw cab

2014-03-04 Thread Keith.Douglas
Thanks for the input, Phill. I fear am fighting an uphill battle on this. WiX is new to people (including our installation team) and people are unsure what to make of all of this. Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, prome

Re: [WiX-users] MSU / raw cab

2014-03-04 Thread Keith.Douglas
Hi Phill, This, while helpful to some degree doesn't tell me whether or not I should be using the CAB files (how?) in my WiX bootstrappers or whether I should use the MSUs. I see that to use pkgmgr correctly one needs a XML file (manifest) to do so. Since I was not given such a thing outside t

[WiX-users] MSU / raw cab

2014-03-04 Thread Keith.Douglas
My "OS update" colleagues are telling me I can just install a raw CAB of updates (hotfixes, etc.) and somehow use pkgmgr correctly (transactionally, removably, etc.) without an MSU. Is this really the case? I cannot see this anywhere at Microsoft or in the WiX documentation. All the hotfix stuff

Re: [WiX-users] Detect if MS HotFix installed during Bundle installation?

2014-02-27 Thread Keith.Douglas
Don't the extra things like the XML manifest and the WU metadata make a MSU more than an archive? Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Tél

[WiX-users] MSU question

2014-01-31 Thread Keith.Douglas
I was talking over how to do off-line updates to Windows for some of our systems which only work by "transmission style" file exchange (and are never on public internet), and MSUs came up. I know bootstrappers/burn EXEs support them; however, how does one obtain them in the first place beyond sc

Re: [WiX-users] Imperfect install leading to repair.

2014-01-31 Thread Keith.Douglas
Got it, there was an accidental downgrade of the file's version. I guess I understand why that removes without reinstalling. However, I think I'll have to put some sanity checking against this happening again. Meanwhile, the trick for those playing along at home (:)) is that the "won't downgrad

Re: [WiX-users] Imperfect install leading to repair.

2014-01-30 Thread Keith.Douglas
Hi Phil, thanks for answering. I don't think this is it; Windows installer 4.x is on Windows 7, correct? That's the target here (though the symptoms appear on Vista as well). In any case, this install does not use the GAC. (It does do the implicit "program files" -> "program files (x86)" map, t

Re: [WiX-users] Imperfect install leading to repair.

2014-01-30 Thread Keith.Douglas
I've determined that this cannot be it, as I tried it on a machine and found that the file was missing without doing any reboots. Thanks for the thought, though, Scott. Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney

[WiX-users] Imperfect install leading to repair.

2014-01-29 Thread Keith.Douglas
Hi everyone, I just released a new MSI for an upgraded version of one of our in house applications. This is about the 16th iteration (we've been in testing for most of this, so each new one is a full package with a MajorUpgrade) and all the rest have been successful, until today. One file did

[WiX-users] Question about shortcuts

2013-12-05 Thread Keith.Douglas
Several of our packages use unadvertised shortcuts to point to various files in their installation. However, I have learned that we were setting the "WorkingDirectory" attribute wrong for them (because I had to replace one for an application where WorkingDirectory matters). I had followed the ho

Re: [WiX-users] wixtoolset.org popups

2013-12-03 Thread Keith.Douglas
For what it is worth, I haven't seen them from over here either. Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-951-4405 Facsimile | Té

Re: [WiX-users] Build WiX Projects via msbuild using TFSPreview Hosted Build Servers

2013-11-08 Thread Keith.Douglas
Since the consideration in this thread may eventually affect many of us, is there any explanation anywhere why ICE requires elevation when not run interactively? Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pastu

Re: [WiX-users] Environment Variable Changes by MSI are not reflected

2013-11-04 Thread Keith.Douglas
By the way, the last sentence of Nicolás' remarks seems to be our single biggest problem "with WiX" here - so much stuff does unoptimal practice with installations, file locations, environment set up, OS settings, etc. it is difficult for a few people like myself to show that a more optimal prac

Re: [WiX-users] Exit codes from msiexec

2013-10-22 Thread Keith.Douglas
Thank you for the correction, Phil. I take it I cannot easily determine if a downgrade was prevented from a non-interactive mechanism? (Our applications are installed by a Windows service without user intervention.) Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0

[WiX-users] Exit codes from msiexec

2013-10-22 Thread Keith.Douglas
I see that msiexec returns 1638 if the usual MajorUpgrade tag does its stuff and prevents a downgrade. Is there any way to distinguish between the case that the MajorUpgrade did nothing because the versions were equal versus a version strictly less than the already installed version was attempte

Re: [WiX-users] Installing Wix 3.7 - Root Certs Needed

2013-10-15 Thread Keith.Douglas
My server support colleagues discovered that at least for 200*3* R2 we needed to install KB931125 to get matters to work. I'm not sure which certificates that installs, however. Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promena

Re: [WiX-users] WiX disaster -- how did I cause it?

2013-10-03 Thread Keith.Douglas
When I had set up my shortcut (unadvertised, but I am not sure that matters) mentioned a few posts back, I got the impression that the registry key didn't really matter; it was just a "vestige" of some Windows Installer weirdness and would sort of "pollute" the installing user's profile, but tha

Re: [WiX-users] WiX disaster -- how did I cause it?

2013-09-30 Thread Keith.Douglas
I've made use of the below for a while which uses an unadvertised shortcut: Note that we have a front end we've built to automate some of our WXS generation process (that's why the Ids look funny). This is actually from the front end

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Errors installing 3.7

2013-09-25 Thread Keith.Douglas
Hi everyone, I thought I'd update the answer to my question from last week: For what it is worth, our server support team found KB931125, which seems to have been the correct one for Server 2003 R2 Enterprise. Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 S

Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Errors installing 3.7

2013-09-19 Thread Keith.Douglas
Any idea which root certificate update I'd need to get installed? Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-951-4405 Facsimile | T

[WiX-users] Errors installing 3.7

2013-09-19 Thread Keith.Douglas
Hi everyone, I've been trying to install 3.7 on another machine (again with no Internet connectivity). Looks like something about signed packages or the like. The relevant parts of the log (as far as I can tell) follow. For what it is worth (I saw something about this in old messages) this is al

Re: [WiX-users] offline install

2013-09-10 Thread Keith.Douglas
Ah ha, gotcha. I'll do that. Thanks, Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-951-4405 Facsimile | Télécopieur 613-951-1966 Gove

[WiX-users] ExitCode element

2013-09-10 Thread Keith.Douglas
Hi everyone, I did get WiX 3.7 installed correctly once that little other MSI was around. Thanks! Now I have a question about the ExitCode element. The documentation says about its Value attribute: "Exit code returned from executable package. If no value is provided it means all values not exp

Re: [WiX-users] offline install

2013-09-10 Thread Keith.Douglas
I get a failed install with the ProjectAggregator you mentioned: [1BA8:1518][2013-09-10T12:24:12]w343: Prompt for source of package: ProjectAggregator2, payload: ProjectAggregator2, path: G:\WixLayout\ProjectAggregator2.msi [1BA8:1518][2013-09-10T12:24:12]i338: Acquiring package: ProjectAggregat

[WiX-users] offline install

2013-09-10 Thread Keith.Douglas
How exactly does one use offline install mode in WiX 3.7 ? I have the binaries package and the 20 meg .exe but it doesn't seem to find the binaries if they are loose in the directory. (/layout doesn't work for me on my public net machine due to web proxies or the like in the way.) Keith Dougl

Re: [WiX-users] Uninstall bundle by name ?

2013-09-05 Thread Keith.Douglas
Hi, What we did is build a front end that builds an "uninstall message" when the package is built (again by the front end, but you could use a build script or something maybe) and uses our install-and-monitor software to parse it when it arrives. You'd need SCCM or Afaria or other tools like th

Re: [WiX-users] Expected behaviour

2013-08-22 Thread Keith.Douglas
Hi Rob, this was an interesting post but I don't understand exactly how it helps me. For example, I tried: http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/UtilExtension"; xmlns:netfx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/NetFxExtension"; xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/wi";>

Re: [WiX-users] Expected behaviour

2013-08-21 Thread Keith.Douglas
Thank you for the information, Phil. This raises another bunch of questions: Why is the default in this location in the sequence (that seems unfortunate, since rollbacks are part of the point of using MSIs)? Should I change the location for all my installers? What's a good way to this when buil

Re: [WiX-users] Expected behaviour

2013-08-21 Thread Keith.Douglas
Thanks for answering Phil, Unfortunately a verbose log is not available. However, I know that there's no explicit sequencing of RemoveExistingProducts or anything else for that matter by my WXS. According to the MSI itself it is 1401, immediately after InstallValidate and before InstallInitiali

[WiX-users] Expected behaviour

2013-08-21 Thread Keith.Douglas
If a service update (a MajorUpgrade of a service installation) fails for some reason, and a rollback to the previous version happens, what happens if the MSI for the rollback cannot be found? Would this leave no files from the first package in the installation directory? I guess I may have naïve

[WiX-users] Exit codes from WixStandardBootstrapperApplication

2013-08-21 Thread Keith.Douglas
Are these documented anywhere? In particular, when /quiet is used with either of /install or /uninstall, knowing that any error occurred by the exit/return codes would be helpful. Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, prome

[WiX-users] Readonly files

2013-08-01 Thread Keith.Douglas
What's the best way to replace files which have their read only bit set during an install? (I.e., the file system files are read only, not the ones to be installed.) Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's

Re: [WiX-users] Windows updates [P]

2013-07-11 Thread Keith.Douglas
I think we would, but I was just looking at when burn was available and had 3.6 on the brain. Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Télép

Re: [WiX-users] Windows updates

2013-07-11 Thread Keith.Douglas
So I download the wix37-binaries.zip and follow those sorts of instructions? Keith Douglas Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-951-4405 F

Re: [WiX-users] Windows updates

2013-07-11 Thread Keith.Douglas
Following up to myself here to ask a question about burn. I had forgotten burn got released in 3.6, since we've never needed to use it (until the below question). Can 3.6 be installed side by side with 3.5? If it matters, I don't need Votive except, perhaps, in 3.6. Keith Douglas Statistics Ca

Re: [WiX-users] Windows updates

2013-07-11 Thread Keith.Douglas
So Burn is needed? (I am not surprised, given that it would be several files to install that are likely internally transactional and the rest, but just wanted to confirm.) We don't have internet access on the machines; that's sort of the point - to get them a collection of stand-alones over the

[WiX-users] Windows updates

2013-07-11 Thread Keith.Douglas
Hi folks, Is there a way to bundle-and-install the standalone updates that one would get from Microsoft to update Windows (e.g. security updates with the "Windows Update Standalone" file type or whatever it is exactly)? If so, where should I start looking to do this? (We have machines which ar

Re: [WiX-users] Wix dev and regular dev best practices

2013-05-29 Thread Keith.Douglas
I don't know if our approach will work well long term since we are still developing all of this, but we decided we'd build front end utilities for developers to use with presets implicitly written out to wxs for them (like Manufacturer and expected directories to install to, etc.). This way in

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